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Suncor Energy Inc. is a Canada-based integrated energy company. The Company's segments include Oil Sands, Exploration and Production (E&P), and Refining and Marketing. Its operations include oil sands development, production and upgrading; offshore oil production; petroleum refining in Canada and the United States; and the Company’s Petro-Canada retail and wholesale distribution networks... see more

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Suncor Energy Inc > EV vs ICE in a Rear end Collision
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Post by Experienced on Aug 17, 2022 10:17pm

EV vs ICE in a Rear end Collision

Saw this amazing video the other day which got me thinking about a lot of things.


Here's the scenario...

The guy is driving on an Interstate Highway in California in an EV (Tesla).  The car in front of him suddenly slows down for no apparent reason.  The guy in the Tesla slams on his brakes and a guy in an Audi ICE car runs into the back of the Tesla.

The guy in the Tesl smells something but doesn't know what the smell is or where it is coming from.  The guy driving the Audi, whose car has the front end smashed in drives the Audi to the side of the road and gets out to exchange papers with the Tesla owner.

The Tesla owner tries to start the car and do the same.  The car won't start and 0n his screen he sees that all of the systems in the Tesla have been disabled.


Soooo...what is going on and what happens next?

Well the wierd smell the guy smelt was something called a pyro-fuse whose sole purpose in life is to save the battery by rendering the battery inoperable.

They exchange papers and the guy in the Audi drives off on his own steam.

The Tesla owner calls AAA and after an hour they show up and the guy is stuck blocking a lane of the Interstate.  The problem is when the AAA shows up they can't move his car because unlike an ICE where they would put the car in neutral and winch the car onto the tow truck, you can't do that with the tesla because the wheels are locked.  So the AAA truck driver uses his truck and rams the back of the Tesla to push it off the road and then says goodbye since he can't do anything else.

The Tesla owner then calls Tesla who sends another truck which arrives a half hour later and has specialized equipment to get the car loaded onto the tow truck.  They take the Tesla to a Tesla sanctioned repair shop.

Total cost for the repair?

Please sit down before I tell you...lol

A few bucks under $20K!!!

Now.....I picked on Tesla in this example but the fact of the matter is that all EVs have this pyro-fuse so the same thing could happen to any of them.

Welcome to the future!!!
Comment by vr6loco on Aug 18, 2022 3:09am
Most tow trucks have what's called a dolly. Basically little wheels that go under the wheels. If you're stuck, request a tow truck with a dolly. Used on 44s and all wheel drive vehicles,or vehicles that have bad accidents the wheels are damaged.
Comment by jx7000 on Aug 18, 2022 9:09am
If I was a tow-truck op, I'd pass, too.  If that (Tesla) thing catches fire while in tow, not only is his truck in danger but he's probably going to be liable for whatever happens if it does catch fire. And $20K to tow the car, yeah, sure why not. They gotta make a profit and they got you by the "family jewels."
Comment by mrbb on Aug 19, 2022 4:07am
No, the 20k is for the repair.  Don't know if that include body repair due to tow truck pushing the tesla off the road.
Comment by Experienced on Aug 19, 2022 9:41am
The repair cost included the damage done by the tow truck.  Made for an interesting insurance claim I bet....lol
Comment by Wynjoe on Aug 18, 2022 9:18am
Many more cons to follow,lol. I like the concept of all electric,however many of the problems either remain hidden purposely or have yet to be unveiled. In home fires, and inefficiencies due to charging at home has yet to rear its ugly head. Shocks and electrocution also comes to mind. EVs are far from a slam dunk.
Comment by 555rookie555 on Aug 18, 2022 8:48pm
I just bought an ICE Subaru Ascent but did thorough research on EVs, PHEVs (plug in electric hybrids) and hybrids. Below is a research source that helped tilt me toward the ICE (that and wait times for popular models and some capital cost savings). But note the CRA allows 100% write off of hybrid and electric vehicles in year 1 if you purchase them for business purposes - just note you cannot take ...more  
Comment by 555rookie555 on Aug 18, 2022 8:49pm
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Comment by mrbb on Aug 19, 2022 4:03am
The study is not wrong but it choses 2019 hybrids (HEV) with outdated battery for the test. Nickel metal hydride battery? come on man, even Li-ion batteries in my cordless drill and smartphone outclass NH battery in these EV posers.   The problem with Hybrid (HEV) is it's basically an ICE car with some dinky battery and motor to assist daddy ICE power.      an ...more  
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