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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Suncor Energy Inc T.SU

Alternate Symbol(s):  SU

Suncor Energy Inc. is a Canada-based integrated energy company. The Company's segments include Oil Sands, Exploration and Production (E&P), and Refining and Marketing. Its operations include oil sands development, production and upgrading; offshore oil production; petroleum refining in Canada and the United States; and the Company’s Petro-Canada retail and wholesale distribution networks... see more

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Post by Obscure1 on Apr 10, 2023 3:33pm

Wednesday

"Michael S. Regan, the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, is expected to announce the proposed limits on tailpipe emissions on Wednesday in Washington."

No worries for Suncor as the auto makers will likely ignore the Jan 1, 2027  Washington deadline just like they ignored the Chinese July 1, 2023 deadline.  Actually, the auto makers are already desperately moving their efforts to EV production, but they will never tell the suckers (sorry, their customers) until the last possible moment when they will announce once-in-a-lifetime deals on your favourite brands.   

The "ignore it and it will go away" strategy worked out well for legacy automakers as almost all of the ICE dealerships in China have closed.  The few dealerships that remian have 4 million cars heading to offshore auctions in the coming weeks.  

EV's don't really matter to Suncor as the company doesn't rely much on gasoline sales.  Oh wait!

Despite the fact that gasoline sales in Suncor's primary markets are going to steadily decline in 3 years (when 15 million new ICE vehicles per year stop being pumped into the USA economy) SU can rely on old cars to buy their gas.  In addition, TMX will save the day by shipping Suncor products overseas.  Based upon its stellar track record, surely SU can beat out CNQ and the other producers for the 600,000 bpd capacity that TMS will be bringing online.  Oh wait!

Surely SU will be able to find a buyer for its oil in China and elsewhere and find a way to ship the oil as countries like Saudi Arabia and Russia won't even bother to compete.  Oh wait!

No worries.  SU has it all figured out.  They just need to keep sending that $0.52 every three months.  What could possibly go wrong? 
Comment by meritmat on Apr 10, 2023 3:46pm
And see it scraped when the Rep get in, in 2024
Comment by Obscure1 on Apr 10, 2023 5:59pm
What are the chances that Trump doesn't split the Republican vote? Even in a make-believe world where the Republicans win, would the win suddenly: * make Volkswagen discard its $185 billion committment to its EV platform.   * make GM hire back the 58,000 white collar workers  * make Ford stop its Blue Oval development  * make auto makers rescind their tens of billions of ...more  
Comment by Experienced on Apr 10, 2023 7:05pm
As per my response to a post by Migraine the other day...when you use my name in vain - I need to respond....lol 1..... we have beaten this subject to death on this Board IMHO 2....as per a back and forth between Migraine and myself a couple of weeks ago - a key issue is whether going forward there will be greater demand destruction or supply destruction. If you think the former then you should ...more  
Comment by wreckhouse on Apr 13, 2023 8:27am
The rise of clean energy presents investors with an opportunity  This is a article for all to read in the globe & mail today .   Don't fight the tape " .  Thanks Experienced . BCRNW
Comment by Experienced on Apr 12, 2023 10:12am
Just a point of clarification. The regulations announced by the EPA are proposals, not law, and there will be a period of public consultation before they are enacted into law.  Secondly, the State of Texas has taken the EPA to court arguing an overreach of its Constitutional Authority.  A previous case regarding other regulations imposed by the EPA were deemed unconstitutional by SCOTUS ...more  
Comment by jx7000 on Apr 13, 2023 11:19am
With respect to the US EPA's proposed limits on tailpipe emissions, what exactly are they trying to accomplish when China is building more than half of the world's new coal power plants (from April 2022)? 
Comment by Experienced on Apr 13, 2023 1:51pm
Yep... Essentially all they are going to accomplish is to further China's ambition to be the dominant world power before the end of this Century. All Government interference ever accomplishes is to screw up the natural forces using taxpayer money and then tax people again to clean up the mess afterwards.
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