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Suncor Energy Inc > NOT Looking GOOD At ALL: AP Story On Israeli HOSPITAL STRIKE
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Post by ztransforms173 on Oct 17, 2023 1:55pm

NOT Looking GOOD At ALL: AP Story On Israeli HOSPITAL STRIKE

AP

Hundreds killed in Israeli airstrike on Gaza City hospital, Health Ministry says

The Hamas-run Health Ministry in the Gaza Strip says at least 500 people have been killed in an explosion that it says was caused by an Israeli airstrike


 

KHAN YOUNIS, Gaza Strip (AP) — The Gaza Health Ministry said an Israeli airstrike Tuesday hit a Gaza City hospital packed with wounded and other Palestinians seeking shelter, killing hundreds. If confirmed, the attack would be by far the deadliest Israeli airstrike in five wars fought since 2008.

Photos from al-Ahli Hospital showed fire engulfing the hospital halls, shattered glass and body parts scattered across the area. The ministry said at least 500 people had been killed.

Several hospitals in Gaza City have become refuges for hundreds of people, hoping they would be spared bombardment after Israel ordered all residents of the city and surrounding areas to evacuate to the southern Gaza Strip.

Israeli military spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said there were still no details on the hospital deaths: “We will get the details and update the public. I don’t know to say whether it was an Israeli air strike.”

In the south, continued strikes killed dozens of civilians and at least one senior Hamas figure Tuesday in attacks it says are targeted at militants. U.S. officials worked to convince Israel to allow delivery of supplies to desperate civilians, aid groups and hospitals after days of failed hopes for an opening in the siege.

With Israel barring entry of water, fuel and food into Gaza since Hamas’ brutal attack last week, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken secured an agreement with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to discuss creation of a mechanism for delivering aid to the territory's 2.3 million people. U.S. officials said the gain might appear modest, but stressed that it was a significant step forward.

Still, as of late Tuesday, there was no deal in place. A top Israeli official said Tuesday his country was demanding guarantees that Hamas militants would not seize any aid deliveries. Tzahi Hanegbi, head of Israel’s National Security Council, suggested entry of aid also depended on the return of hostages held by Hamas.

“The return of the hostages, which is sacred in our eyes, is a key component in any humanitarian efforts,” he told reporters, without elaborating whether Israel was demanding the release of all of the roughly 200 people Hamas abducted before allowing supplies in.

U.S. President Joe Biden prepared to head to the region as he and other world leaders tried to prevent the war from sparking a broader regional conflict. Violence flared Tuesday along Israel’s border with Lebanon, where Iranian-backed Hezbollah militants operate.

With tens of thousands of troops massed along the border, Israel has been expected to launch a ground invasion into Gaza — but plans remained uncertain.

“We are preparing for the next stages of war,” military spokesman Lt. Col. Richard Hecht said. “We haven’t said what they will be. Everybody’s talking about a ground offensive. It might be something different.”

In Gaza, dozens of injured were rushed to hospitals after heavy attacks outside the southern cities of Rafah and Khan Younis, residents reported. Bassem Naim, a senior Hamas official and former health minister, reported 27 people were killed in Rafah and 30 in Khan Younis.

An Associated Press reporter saw around 50 bodies brought to Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis. Family members came to claim the bodies, wrapped in white bedsheets, some soaked in blood.

An airstrike in Deir al Balah reduced a house to rubble, killing a man and 11 women and children inside and in a neighboring house, some of whom had evacuated from Gaza City. Witnesses said there was no warning before the strike.

Shelling from Israeli tanks hit a U.N. school in central Gaza where 4,000 Palestinians had taken refuge, killing six people and wounding dozens, the United Nations Palestinian refugee agencysaid. At least 24 U.N. installations have been hit the past week, killing at least 14 of the agency's staff.

The Israeli military said it was targeting Hamas hideouts, infrastructure and command centers.

A barrage of strikes crashed into the Bureij refugee camp in central Gaza, leveling an entire block of homes and causing dozens of casualties among families inside, residents said. Among those killed was one of Hamas’ top military commanders, Ayman Nofal, the group's military wing said — the most high-profile militant known to have been killed so far in the war.

Nofal, formerly the intelligence chief of Hamas' armed wing, was in charge of Hamas militant activities in the central Gaza Strip, including coordinating activities with other militant groups.

Netanyahu sought to put the blame on Hamas for Israel's retaliatory attacks and the rising civilian casualties in Gaza. “Not only is it targeting and murdering civilians with unprecedented savagery, it’s hiding behind civilians,” he said.

In Gaza City, Israeli airstrikes also hit the house of Hamas’ top political official, Ismail Haniyeh, killing at least 14 people. Haniyeh is based in Doha, Qatar, but his family lives in Gaza City. The Hamas media office did not immediately identify those killed.

Israel sealed off Gaza after the Oct. 7 Hamas attack on southern Israel that killed over 1,400 people, mostly civilians, and resulted in some 200 taken captive into Gaza. Hamas militants in Gaza have launched rockets every day since, aiming at cities across Israel.

Israeli strikes on Gaza have killed at least 2,778 people and wounded 9,700, according to the Gaza Health Ministry. Nearly two-thirds of those killed were children, a ministry official said.

Another 1,200 people across Gaza are believed to be buried under the rubble, alive or dead, health authorities said.

More than 1 million Palestinians have fled their homes — roughly half of Gaza's population — and 60% are now in the approximately 14-kilometer (8-mile) long area south of the evacuation zone, the U.N. said.

Aid workers warned that the territory was near complete collapse. Hospitals were on the verge of losing electricity, threatening the lives of thousands of patients, and hundreds of thousands of people searched for bread and water.

The U.N. agency for Palestinians said more than 400,000 displaced people are crowded into schools and other facilities in the south. The agency said it has only 1 liter of water a day for each of its staff members trapped in the territory.

Israel opened a water line into the south for three hours that benefitted only 14 percent of Gaza’s population, the U.N. said.

At the Rafah crossing, Gaza’s only connection to Egypt, truckloads of aid were waiting to enter. The World Food Program said that it had more than 300 tons of food waiting to cross into Gaza.

Civilians with foreign citizenship — many of them Palestinians with dual nationalities — also waited in Rafah, desperate to get out.

“We come to the border crossing hoping that it will open, but so far there is no information,” said Jameel Abdullah, a Swedish citizen.

Repeated reports that an opening was imminent have proven false as negotiations continued to grind on, including the U.S., Israel and Egypt.

A senior Egyptian official called it a “very tough, complicated back-and-forth process” and said talks were over deliveries through Rafah and Israel's Karam Shalom crossing to Gaza. He said Israel was insisting to search all aid, and wants to “ensure that such aid won’t benefit Hamas.” He said Egypt proposed that the U.N. oversee the whole process, including inside Gaza. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not allowed to brief the press on the talks.

Officials for Hamas and Israel cast doubt on an immediate opening, saying they were unaware of an agreement.

Blinken arrived in Israel last Thursday with a full-throated message of unequivocal U.S. support for Israel in its campaign to destroy Hamas. But in meetings with seven Arab leaders over the next three days, Blinken's tone shifted subtly, talking more prominently about the need for humanitarian aid.

U.S. officials said it had become clear by then that already limited Arab tolerance of Israel’s military operations would evaporate entirely if conditions in Gaza worsened. They said that outright condemnation of Israel by Arab leaders would be a boon to Hamas and could encourage Iran, according to four officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal administration thinking. That prompted Blinken to press Netanyahu on an aid deal.

Biden's visit to Israel Wednesday will signal the White House's support for a key ally. He will also travel to Jordan to meet with Arab leaders amid fears the fighting could spread in the region.

Israel evacuated towns near its northern border with Lebanon, where the military has exchanged fire repeatedly with Hezbollah militants.

Israel said it killed four militants wearing explosive vests who were attempting to cross into the country from Lebanon on Tuesday morning. No group immediately claimed responsibility.

Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei warned that Israel's continuing offensive in Gaza could cause a violent reaction across the region.

“Bombardments should be immediately stopped. Muslim nations are angry,” Khamenei said, according to state media.


Kullab reported from Baghdad. Nessman reported from Jerusalem. Lee reported from Amman. Associated Press journalists Amy Teibel in Jerusalem; Abby Sewell in Beirut; Samy Magdy and Jack Jeffrey in Cairo; and Ashraf Sweilam in el-Arish, Egypt contributed to this report.

- HOPEFULLY, it is an EXAGGERATION ?

z173

Comment by mrbb on Oct 17, 2023 2:48pm
well, that's what Hamas want and gets anyways, using innocent civilian as human shield for terrorist hideout and rocket launching sites at hospitals, schools, residential area.  Any civilian casualty would garner international sympathy.  
Comment by Experienced on Oct 17, 2023 3:43pm
Very true... Makes me wonder though when the senior Israeli IDF spokesman says that have to look into it.  Usually they know exactly when and where everything is going - begs the question if it could have been have been a failed Hamas rocket that hit the hospital. To me the jury is still out on that one...
Comment by mrbb on Oct 17, 2023 4:00pm
Yah, bombed out schools and hospitals in ukraine were due to failed ukraine rockets too. 
Comment by liljohnnyjoke on Oct 17, 2023 5:24pm
Iran might steal that one, say huge rocket meant for them must have accidentally detonated at launch from Israel
Comment by Experienced on Oct 17, 2023 6:35pm
Well the latest news reports I saw suggest that that it was a Hamas rocket failure.....mmmhhhhh
Comment by liljohnnyjoke on Oct 17, 2023 7:53pm
I think this story was fabricated for Biden's visit. They want him to believe that Hamas is "The Gang Who Couln't Shoot Straight"! And not to hold back on the $billions in weapons and cash he is bringing.
Comment by Experienced on Oct 17, 2023 9:53pm
liljohnny....perhaps but frankly I don't think so...I have been told by people I trust that the Israelis have drone footage showing what actually happened and presented that evidence to the US military.. That said, the fact that we are even having this discussion means that Hamas is winning the PR battle.  People will take sides on social media and believe what they want to believe. The ...more  
Comment by liljohnnyjoke on Oct 18, 2023 9:38am
Propaganda, #1 weapon in war
Comment by mrbb on Oct 18, 2023 10:18am
there is a saying, the first casualty of war is the truth. 
Comment by liljohnnyjoke on Oct 17, 2023 4:10pm
what else would they say? don't see many buying that one, intentionally bombing hospitals and schools is the stuff that will cause this to spill over worldwide it all seems like a ruse, telling 1 million people to head south so that whats left of 2 million people is crowded into half the area like fish in a barrel and hitting the convoys of cars full of women and children on the way down ...more  
Comment by mrbb on Oct 17, 2023 4:44pm
i guess the ukraine war is slowing down, the war machine makers are looking for new sales and we know the middle east front has been quiet for too long.  Similarly the big pharma is itching for a new pandemic to sell more vaccines. 
Comment by Experienced on Oct 17, 2023 6:45pm
liljohhny...lol The problem in the Middle East is actually really simple... There is no solution.  Even if Israel were to somehow kill every single Hamas fighter, they would just create an even bigger next generation of people dedicated to wipe Israel off the face of the map.  So there is really no end to the cycle. The fundamental problem there is that it is tribal warfare ...more  
Comment by liljohnnyjoke on Oct 17, 2023 8:01pm
its been going on for thousands of years and likely wont end until humans turn Earth into Mars. if some escape to a new planet and both sides have people on the spaceships to the new world they can resume fighting over some small piece of real estate on that planet
Comment by bttmfischer on Oct 17, 2023 10:05pm
It has the fingerprint of a KGB project. Just like they claimed  that a hand granade on board of the Wagner Boss' aerplane blew it up not Russian anti-aircraft missiles, as some video showed. I bet my last buck the fragments of the "bomb"  would not  be Israely or American. But it will never be examined by unbiased third parties. The Hamas are losing the war of terror, ...more  
Comment by mrbb on Oct 17, 2023 10:21pm
FYI, US Apollo astronunfs were told by existing residents not to come back Hence why USA hasn't gone back to the moon. The moon residents already knew earthings are, to paraphrase, war mongers. What is comedy? it's either exaggeration of plain truth OR truth spoken years ahead of its time (15) George Carlin on War - YouTube
Comment by mrbb on Oct 17, 2023 10:25pm
sorry, typo. Still recovering from a vitrectomy  US Apollo astronauts 
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