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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Suncor Energy Inc T.SU

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Suncor Energy Inc. is a Canada-based integrated energy company. The Company's segments include Oil Sands, Exploration and Production (E&P), and Refining and Marketing. Its operations include oil sands development, production and upgrading, offshore oil and gas production, petroleum refining in Canada and the United States and its Petro-Canada retail and wholesale distribution networks... see more

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Suncor Energy Inc > Cutting out the Noise
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Post by Experienced on Jul 21, 2024 5:02pm

Cutting out the Noise

As I have said in many previous posts, the key thing regarding politics is to understand what is going on, what is important, and deciding on whether any of that suggests a change in your portfolio allocations.

Sooooo..let's take a look at this

The talking heads on CNN and Fox and the other networks are going to throw a lot trivia and opinions at you in order to fill their broadcast schedule.  Most of that talk is essentially meaningless.  

In the US it really doesn't matter whether Kamala or somebody else is at the top of the democratic ticket.  

Why?

Because essentially most of the voters in the US have already made up their minds and as one woman said in an interview a couple of weeks ago - "I would vote for Biden even if he was in a coffin"

So then - what is really important?

Essentially the whole thing will depend on what happens in about 5 of the 50 states (the so-called "swing states") and out of the whole electorate only about 4% are truly undecided and will have a big impact on the results. The other key determinant is the level of turnout that each party will get and this depends on voter "enthusiasm".  No polling is going to capture these two factors and so relying on the polls to make your investment decisions could lead to big mistakes.  Looking for ways to get answers to these two questions is what I am focussing on and discarding the rest of the blather.


Sooooo...does it make a difference which party becomes President?

Well a lot depends on what happens in the Senate and the House as to whether the new president will be able to affect any changes.  That said, let's look at whether there are any real differences between the parties or not.

Budgetary Deficits and the National Debt - both Parties have spending plans and neither IMO is serious about reducing the debt so as investors that is a big overhang which come to roost at some point in the future and it when it does it will not be pretty.

Oil Industry and EVs - from what we have seen so far, a Democrat as predicent will likely continue to try and make things difficult for the US oil industry and try to accelerate the conversion to EVs through regulations.  IMO, the impact is likely to be a failure on the EV side and marginally successful in terms of the oil industry.  If this happens then we could see a narrowing of the differential between WTI and Brent and greater reliance on Canadian oil which is a good thing for investments in companiers like SU.  Conversely, a Republican victory will likely have the opposite effect.

There are others but since this is an oil Board, inwill leave it at that.

Comment by Marty47 on Jul 21, 2024 6:44pm
Well I think our oil will worth much more under Harris ...and the dem, they are so poor on world stage it will keep oil up . 
Comment by Experienced on Jul 21, 2024 9:17pm
Marty....yes....another factor that ironically, the best thing for oil investors would be for the dems to win in November
Comment by nukester on Jul 21, 2024 11:48pm
I am curious. How does the implosion of the solar industry play into your logic? Here is the latest example: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sunpower-stock-plummets-73-week-034603584.html?ref=biztoc.com You have repeatedly stated to invest in enterprises that would benefit from green energy agenda investment, energy disruption, etc. A sound plan, in a general sense but the devil is in the ...more  
Comment by Experienced on Jul 22, 2024 7:29am
Nukster...good to hear from you....!! A couple of comments and clarifications... 1....I didn't suggest investments in renewable energy investments and in fact stated in one post that I had I considered them overpriced and had sold my invesdtment in renewables eg for ine name  Brookfield Renewables for a profit a couple of years ago and I will admit that I have played a couple of price ...more  
Comment by mrbb on Jul 22, 2024 3:55pm
well, it's ur mistake for mis-interpreting what he said, typical way to shift blame by make clarification afterward, not before, making it a word game. He has many years of experience on how to divert criticism from his clients, i would give him that. Seen enough of his chant 'Like I said before' but provided no link to those claims. i know searches in SH isn't great but i do ...more  
Comment by Kman86 on Jul 22, 2024 8:19pm
Sometimes it's easiest to just tune him out. He's been regurgitating the same thing for years now, not to mention his losing suncor trades.  Listening to him over the last few years would have only resulted in losing investments - "Storm clouds are brewing". He's the same guy who bragged about holding a predominantly cash position back well over 1-1.5 years ago. How ...more  
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