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Theratechnologies Inc. is a Canada-based clinical-stage biopharmaceutical company. The Company is focused on the development and commercialization of therapies addressing unmet medical needs. It markets prescription products for people with human immunodeficiency viruses (HIV) in the United States. The Company's research pipeline focuses on specialized therapies addressing unmet medical needs... see more

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Theratechnologies Inc > "All the rage" Cancer Targets
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Post by Wino115 on Nov 14, 2021 6:01pm

"All the rage" Cancer Targets

Been putting a bit of thought around this as I read so much about certain targets. The immunotherapy one that seems to be high on everyone's list and already has a slew of drugs out there is the PD-1 target, along with it's two "partners" (ligand) PD-L1 and PD-L2. There's numerous trials of drugs around this target and most are ADC drugs.  Load's of combo trials too. They jump up and down around some of SeaGens PD-1 programs and many of the others. 

So it got me wondering about the phrase we keep hearing from PL that "...sortilin is not a marginal target -it is a very important target in many solid tumors."  If analysts are so excited about PD-1 programs, how does Sort1 expression compare if it is, as Paul says, "not marginal"? My own view would be that the more it is compared to something like PD-1 that analysts drool over, the higher the chance we may see analysts and other firms catch on to this.

In their latest published paper, THTX tells us this exact statistic.  Here's the quote, and I think they should add this to their page in bold letters.  Time to start educating the market around how "non-marginal" this target is compared to all the ones analysts and industry observers love -- the PD-1's, TROP-2, any large ADC target used.

Here's the quote from their paper:  

"Recently, antiPDL1 antibodies have demonstrated some promising clinical efficacy against
diverse tumor types where early findings revealed a durable clinical response in only
a small (10%13%) fraction of metastatic TNBC patients treated with antagonists for
the PD1/PDL1 pathway.
72, 73 When compared to PDL1, which was found to be
upregulated in only 19% of this breast cancer subtype,
74  SORT1 expression was threefold
higher in TNBC, which provides an additional advantage in exploiting SORT1
receptormediated chemotherapy for this difficulttotreat disease.


It's not marginally higher --- It's 3x the expression you see of PD-1/PD-L1 for TNBC!

They need to really hammer this point about SORT1 overexpression numbers versus the other ADC targets and PDC targets out there.  That is one thing investors and analysts will understand and perhaps see that SORT1 is something they better learn about if it's 3x more important that PD-1 in TNBC.

Lastly, below is an explanation of PD-1 if you care.  And it was taken from the website of the largest player -- Merck. The name of the drug....Keytruda -- the drug that sold $14.4bil globally last year.  NOW, before you get too excited, Keytruda as an immunotherapy works on a whole slew of cancer types since immunotherapy is a completely different approach than an ADC or PDC.  But there is a decent overlap with the sort1 targets like TNBC, lung, ovarian, colorectal and melanoma. But it has a much wider application.  Now, could we conjugate the PD-1 on to our peptide for our cancers and make it work a whole lot better since there's a load more SORT1 in these cancers than you find PD-1?  YES -- and that's probably what Paul is thinking about when he talks about conjugating an immunotherapy on theirs.  I think you might also be able to do a course of TH1902 and then a course of TH19+Immuno or something like that to have that dual effect of both chemo and immunotherapy combo. 

I think THTX needs to start putting numbers around this "sortilin is not marginal" and use the well known targets as a comparison.  That way any learning about their program can really see this may be a target far more valuable than things like TROP-2, PD-1, etc... The context of how they discuss SORT1 is necessary since it's so new and more or less completely unknown within the analyst community.  Please add that in on all the next slides -- compare expression of SORT1 versus other  targets on the 4-5 main targets you're going after. That is very, very valuable info.


What's a PD-1, from Keytruda site.
PD-1
 protein is found on immune cells called T cells. It normally acts as a type of "off switch" that helps keep the T cells from attacking other cells in the body. PD-1 attaches to PD-L1, a protein found on some normal (and cancer) cells. This interaction basically tells the T cellto leave the other cell alone and not attack it. Some cancer cells have large amounts of PD-L1, which helps them hide from immune attack.

Therapies that target either PD-1 or PD-L1 can stop them from attaching and help keep cancer cells from hiding.

Comment by SPCEO1 on Nov 14, 2021 7:49pm
This could easily be the thing that quickly makes TH-1902 pretty irrelevant in the scheme of things. We could have easily have been focused on the wrong thing for months. But we need TH to make the case you have made and that is likely something they will hold onto until they think the moment is right.
Comment by Lee430 on Nov 14, 2021 7:53pm
PAID POST For PFIZER from CNBC tonight Can you discuss Pfizer’s approach to the use of mRNA in cancer research? Fernando: We and others are also very interested in applications of mRNA for oncology. These applications potentially include improved delivery of cancer-fighting proteins into patients as well as therapeutic vaccines to treat patients who have developed cancer. For ...more  
Comment by Wino115 on Nov 14, 2021 8:35pm
Interesting, even if very far off.  What Paul said at the CS conf was siRNA though, not mRNA. siRNA is short interferance RNA or short RNA and it interferes with the expression of a particular gene. That's about all I know, but I assume the thought is you identify some genetic traits that  lead to a particular type of tumor growth and try to interfere with it, thus impacting the ...more  
Comment by jfm1330 on Nov 14, 2021 9:39pm
To put it in a simple way, a specific siRNA binds with a specific endogenous mRNA that codes for the sythesis of a specefic protein. If this protein is involved in cancer progression, avoiding its expression (synthesis) will slow down the cancer or even lead to regression. Thera used siRNA of sortilin to silence its expression in vitro to show it was necessary for TH1902 efficacy. That being said ...more  
Comment by qwerty22 on Nov 14, 2021 10:38pm
I don't think you conjugate immunotherapies to ThP01, except possibly an siRNA against a target like PD-L1. What they are talking about with immunotherapy is combos of drug. So say two independent drug like th1902 and Keytruda to see if the combo gives some bonus effect. My own view of combos is that if they show some efficacy with the drug as a mono therapy then combo is great but to me if ...more  
Comment by qwerty22 on Nov 14, 2021 10:48pm
It's a great idea. We should put together our own table of Sortilin versus other targets along the lines you describe.
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