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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Theratechnologies Inc T.TH

Alternate Symbol(s):  THTX

Theratechnologies Inc. is a Canada-based clinical-stage biopharmaceutical company. The Company is focused on the development and commercialization of therapies addressing unmet medical needs. It markets prescription products for people with human immunodeficiency viruses (HIV) in the United States. The Company's research pipeline focuses on specialized therapies addressing unmet medical needs... see more

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Theratechnologies Inc > Article from Bloomberg of note
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Post by SPCEO1 on Jan 17, 2023 9:34am

Article from Bloomberg of note

At a different job 25 years ago, I spent months reporting on a diet drug combo called fen-phen. At the time, drugmakers were eager to come up with patented drugs that could duplicate the success of fen-phen. Then one of the drugs in the combo was linked to heart disease and deaths and it all came crashing down. 

For a long time, obesity drug development was out of favor as Big Pharma focused on other lucrative arenas such as cancer. Now obesity medicines are making a roaring comeback, thanks to a new class of diabetes drugs that also turn out to be surprisingly potent weight loss agents. And at the JPMorgan Healthcare Conference last week, obesity medicines were a major focus, as I reported with my colleague Emma Court
Companies including Eli Lilly and Pfizer are trying to match the success of Novo Nordisk, the maker of the highly effective Wegovy injection that mimics a weight-related hormone called GLP-1. Amgen was also among companies presenting at the conference with a potential obesity entrant. The companies are aiming to bring to market weight loss drugs targeting the same pathway that either melt off even more pounds, have less frequent dosing or don’t require injection.

“This is the beginning of a whole new therapeutic area,” Eli Lilly Chief Scientific Officer Daniel Skovronsky told me at the meeting. The new drugs mimic the effects of natural hormones called incretins that are secreted from the gastrointestinal tract and tell the body food has been eaten.

Lilly’s drug, called tirzepatide, helped people lose more than 20% of their weight in one big trial last year, with a second big trial slated to finish this year. Meanwhile, in an early trial, patients on the highest dose of Amgen’s AMG 133 saw an average loss of 14.5% of their weight after just 12 weeks of treatment, according to results released in December. Like Novo’s medicine, Amgen’s drug and Lilly’s tirzepatide are injectable.

Covid vaccine juggernaut Pfizer is working on two drugs that hit the GLP-1 pathway that can be given as pills. It thinks that in the obesity market, the convenience of pills may be a key competitive advantage. At a fireside chat at the meeting, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said he thought the overall market for the class of medicines could grow to $90 billion a year, including both the obesity and diabetes uses combined. His company might capture $10 billion of that, he said.

To achieve those big numbers, though, a lot still has to happen. Final stage trials will have to show the various potential entrants are as safe and effective, as they at least appear to be so far. Companies will have to consistently produce the medicines. Supply issues limited Novo Nordisk’s Wegovy last year, although the company says the shortage has been resolved with all doses available for order since the end of last year.

But the biggest question mark of all is whether drugmakers can convince insurance companies to cover the new medicines. Spotty coverage has been a long-standing problem for obesity drugs. In a couple years, as more trial results roll in and more of the drugs hit the market, we should get a much better sense of how how big this new class will turn out to be. — Robert Langreth 
Comment by SABBOBCAT on Jan 17, 2023 10:39am
Interesting. It again begs the question "why can't management realize value?". If we have so much potential being squandered due to poor execution, why not sell the whole pie? They need to partner in something before the AGM or soften some shareholder rights provisions to make the company more attractive to a suitor.     
Comment by Joemare on Jan 17, 2023 10:58am
Totally agree with you. Mgmt failed to create any value with the P.II tesamorolin  trial. It's three years already.  They can't even negotiate a combo trial with Novo or Lilly, which I think they should push.  They seem unaware of the obesity market, unaware how to conduct P1 onco trial, unaware of how many experts are just next door o their head-office.  Shameful ...more  
Comment by Trogarzon on Jan 17, 2023 10:59am
They do their job of managing what they have well I guess but without overselling their story they are atrocious at generating value.  In the end that's what shareholders are here for not the best employer of the year award.  BTW I'm not shure they'll get that one after the cost cutting is done.
Comment by jfm1330 on Jan 17, 2023 12:15pm
Pushing in NASH an obesity needs the means of a big pharma and youneed toconvince them first and get acceptable terms on a deal. Thera has no money to go into big clinical trials and its stock price reflects it. All they have is some interesting assets, but without the money to push them, and also, without the knowledge level required to push it in the best possible way. We saw it in oncology. I ...more  
Comment by jfm1330 on Jan 17, 2023 12:08pm
Egrifta (tesamorelin) an analog of GRF (1-44) could be very efficacious a fat burning drug in obese people. It was the initial use that was thought about for GRF family of peptides, but 30 years ago there was fear of GRF promoting cancer. Now with the safety track record of Egrifta, I wonder why this is not considered again for obesity. Also, important to note that Wegovy is in reality a long ...more  
Comment by SPCEO1 on Jan 17, 2023 12:52pm
Partnerring with THTX in htis way would certainly be a low cost option for a big pharma looking to have as many irons in the fire as possible. If I was the CEO of a large pharma company, I would seriously consider this. I imagine my CMO would be against it and my board of directors would be skeptical, but given the risk/reward trade-off and the sizable cash generation capabilities of these big ...more  
Comment by Wino115 on Jan 17, 2023 1:04pm
Would make sense just to partner on rights for that indication and carve it out from others.  Or use it to attract someone on the whold obesity + NASH potential. For not much, you could get a lot given the situation. They need to be creative.
Comment by scarlet1967 on Jan 17, 2023 1:47pm
        I agree the company needs to present Tesamorelin as a drug with multiple therapeutic benefits which can potentially each target sizeable market opportunity. MGH did a study looking art abdominal fat in obese patients ( BMI equal or higher the 30 kg/m2)treated by Tesamorelin. From the description: “Obesity, defined as having a high ...more  
Comment by scarlet1967 on Jan 17, 2023 2:06pm
    Published today, VAT was the main cause of concern for T2D and coronary heart disease  …with other word the local burden of visceral fat was causing the co morbidity rather than other fat depots among obese people!     “Adipose tissue volumes were each associated with increased prevalence of type 2 diabetes and coronary artery disease ...more  
Comment by scarlet1967 on Jan 17, 2023 2:11pm
Among Authors Drs Stanley and Grinspoon!!
Comment by Trogarzon on Jan 17, 2023 3:18pm
Maybe at some point it will become obvious that somthing is in the making in that regards whatever the market thinks.  The date is safe (10 years safe).. the data is good...  F8 is a formality now... Cantor is jolly and all even even without and after dec. 1, 2022.... Jones and all the others too.. so there must be something going on, otherwhise where do they take these silly numbers.
Comment by qwerty22 on Jan 17, 2023 3:19pm
"Unhealthy fat" versus "healthy fat"  
Comment by qwerty22 on Jan 17, 2023 3:18pm
Egrifta doesn't impact subcutaneous fat.
Comment by scarlet1967 on Jan 17, 2023 3:38pm
      “We evaluated the association of visceral-to-subcutaneous fat ratio (VSR) with nonalcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD) and advanced fibrosis degree based on noninvasive serum fibrosis markers in the general population with NAFLD.   High VSR values predicted increased NAFLD risk and advanced fibrosis risk with NAFLD, and the predictive value of VSR ...more  
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