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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Taseko Mines Ltd T.TKO

Alternate Symbol(s):  TGB

Taseko Mines Limited is a Canada-based copper focused mining company. The Company's principal assets are the 100% owned Gibraltar mine (Gibraltar), which is located in central British Columbia and is one of the largest copper mines in North America and the Florence Copper project, which is under construction. The Company also owns the Yellowhead copper, New Prosperity gold-copper, and Aley... see more

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Taseko Mines Ltd > CU price movement
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Post by KentWilkens on Feb 10, 2021 8:51am

CU price movement

Has been very interesting of late. I usually do not put much 'stock' in inventories, seen that headfake too many times, but have been following it closely, and both inventories and price movement indicate supply issues. The CU price over the past weeks I saw as a consolidation pattern, with it dipping below 3.50 but just briefly during the day, indicating solid support at that price.

If there is sufficient supply, then it is still trading in its appropriate range, with normal buying and selling patterns. 

Factors that will move the price into another range.
1/ Batteries. The battery tech varies, but none of them use much copper, and there are many materials that work well as a battery, so if price gets too high, then the other tech becomes more price competitive. There is competition in the materials on the battery tech. Not so with moving it from the battery to the drive system, or in making the drive system work.

2/ Copper is the only material at this point which is cheap in relative terms, and is a perfectly designed material for moving electricity. It lasts, does not break down over time, and has little loss in transmission. Copper has no competition to transport energy in an energy based world. The only issues are supply and demand.

3/ If there are supply issues in this scenario, then both suppliers and end users will begin to get "nervous" with that supply. Having cars sitting on the production line waiting for more copper to show up would not work out well for some. Same with wind turbines and all other things that make our little world wind up. Once we hit that point, if we do, or if there is the perception that it is near, then expect those supplies and end users to increase their end inventories as the price moves up. That in itself will drive the price higher, and create more supply issues, as hording at the manufacturing level for those perceptive enough to understand the dynamics, takes place. 

4/ If others get involved in this, it could drive the price even further

5/ Short term trump card is 40k tonnes of CU showing up at the LME, pressure is off, price will drop.

I fully expect this scenario to play out, as it has in the past, not only with CU, but other commodities, the only question is when. Are we on the cusp now?

That this is occuring during a worldwide pandemic affecting trade and retail worldwide is beyond bizarre.

KW

Comment by 2024golden on Feb 10, 2021 10:07am
We are at a very real turning point in worldwide energy production/distribution, highlighted by electric autos and trucks....but also green energy such as wind and solar as we move away from oil/coal economies.   And, on top of that is the move by billions of people in Asia and Africa to electrification of economies as they modernize to move out of extreme poverty. The demand for copper ...more  
Comment by nofluff on Feb 10, 2021 10:42am
Nice interview with goldman analyst on copper. He says we are out of physical copper reserve. He expects copper to go to 10.00 and then possibly 20.00. So it is no longer just fluffy making that call. I do not think I have ever said more than 10.00, but I can see how 20.00 could happen. Lets dream big. 20.00 copper and 4 copper mines at 500 million pounds per year at 15.00 cad profit after tax ...more  
Comment by KentWilkens on Feb 10, 2021 10:53am
NF, love the dreaming.. sometimes dreams come true.. ;) but seriously, if goldman had an intervew, please share, it is easy, just copy the link, go to tko, pick new, hit that little button that looks like a limp pickle, and share for us, please. KW
Comment by nofluff on Feb 10, 2021 10:57am
to complicated kw. Just google copper news. It should top front and center:)) nf
Comment by JCSunsfan on Feb 10, 2021 11:18am
Actually, I hope not.  Silver is right now being manipulated to save the world's economies.  Because it is both a precious metal and an industrial metal and in short supply, a huge run up in silver has the potential to cripple certain industries, if not, to drive prices of stuff up, which in turn drives up inflation, which in turn drives investors to silver, and so the "melt up ...more  
Comment by Notgnu on Feb 10, 2021 12:17pm
Nice post KentW... I will paste it to NCU too. Hope that is okay. Cheers, Notgnu
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