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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Vermilion Energy Inc T.VET

Alternate Symbol(s):  VET

Vermilion Energy Inc. is a Canada-based international energy producer. The Company seeks to create value through the acquisition, exploration, development, and optimization of producing assets in North America, Europe, and Australia. Its business model emphasizes free cash flow generation and returning capital to investors when economically warranted, augmented by value-adding acquisitions. The... see more

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Post by Oldnagger on Jul 19, 2021 10:30pm

look at the charts

On this site, click on the quote icon, then look at the 10 year charts. then ask yourself what happened ? has global demand for crude and nat gas crashed ? or perhaps the supply has risen dramatically . Are producers way over drilling ?  Have renewables been putting us out of business just like the buggy whip manufacturers ?
Or could it be that the markets are now contrived for whatever reason ?

Then ask yourself Do I have the guts and intelligence to stick it out till common sense returns ?
Comment by PipelessPauper on Jul 20, 2021 12:07am
I sure do this used to be a $50 stoack when oil was $50 now we’re at 67 and stock is $8 ill wait for the stock to reach $50 again
Comment by stockmarket1 on Jul 20, 2021 1:09am
Waiting for $50 you say? How many years beginning after 2022 lol?
Comment by PipelessPauper on Jul 20, 2021 1:33am
The market needed this flush out thats why the stock continued to decline as oil rose. Big money hands knew MSM would blow up fear of Delta when it became widespread public knowledge  but while it’s more infectious, it’s FAR less deadly. Deaths have not climbed as case counts rise... and that’s never happened before.... the MSM incited fear is overblown. Who do you think was on the other ...more  
Comment by PipelessPauper on Jul 20, 2021 3:55am
My call is we see $50 by XMAS and you can bookmark this. I have anyways
Comment by Oldnagger on Jul 20, 2021 5:50am
Refineries around the world are buying Crude on the August contract to meet their needs this fall. That is traditionally a season of weaker demand for products and consequent refinery shutdowns for maintenance. Layer on concern over continuing lockdowns and then maybe that explains why the trade did not jump in on yesterdays blow out.  Nevertheless of two things I am sure ; Winter will come ...more  
Comment by stockmarket1 on Jul 20, 2021 9:08am
$50 a share for VET or $50 WTI? quote=PipelessPauper]My call is we see $50 by XMAS and you can bookmark this. I have anyways[/quote]
Comment by PipelessPauper on Jul 20, 2021 10:57am
Yup. Ill remind you that this was a $50 stock when oil was $50 a cpl years ago... And now we have oil just shy of $67, and the stock isn’t even $9... lol
Comment by PipelessPauper on Jul 20, 2021 12:15pm
Yes... VET
Comment by stockmarket1 on Jul 20, 2021 12:22pm
All due respect....I highly doubt $50 for VET by Christmas 2021. Maybe $20 if all goes well from now until years end.  $50...way too optimistic. I like it though.
Comment by mnztr on Jul 20, 2021 1:48pm
It may hit 30 but only if the reinstate a generous divvy. People forget the debt makes VET less attractive to predatory takeovers.  When they talk about the 1.5 ratio they seek, there are 2 components to this. Debt reduction AND FFO increase. Both components will be significant. The have no intention of being debt free, that is just not good business when money is so cheap. All they want to ...more  
Comment by PipelessPauper on Jul 20, 2021 2:09pm
Good points mnztr
Comment by stockmarket1 on Jul 20, 2021 3:38pm
Yes... Great point mnztr.
Comment by rino27 on Jul 20, 2021 9:33pm
mnztr, if they apply the the $689 million from the recent gas license sales as well as there free cash flow fro Q2, where do you think that leaves VET ratio wise?
Comment by PipelessPauper on Jul 20, 2021 10:15pm
At 85,000 boe/d, (estimate - but they did 86,270 in Q1) that’s ~ 31,025,000 boe / year, if the price holds at ~ $70 WTI... that’s $2,171,750,000 FFO for the year. they currently have ~$1950 mm in debt. I was speaking with IR rep today, and he confirmed their target of 1.5x debt to FFO ... meaning they’re already there (if prices continue to year end). My guess is the company plays it safe and ...more  
Comment by stockmarket1 on Jul 20, 2021 10:45pm
Totally agree with your statement about a turnaround story. It is which is why it's so frustrating seeing the share price so low. It takes time, I get it, but it sure would be nice to cut the debt in half asap! Seems like we all can't wait for that lol. Hopefully, the share price soon kicks in and gets rewarded a lot sooner than later imho. It be nice to get back into double digits though.
Comment by PipelessPauper on Jul 20, 2021 11:21pm
I hope so too stockmarket1!!
Comment by mnztr on Jul 20, 2021 10:39pm
that was 689K not M
Comment by rino27 on Jul 20, 2021 10:47pm
My mistake.....it's another 689 K to debt. Cheers
Comment by stockmarket1 on Jul 20, 2021 11:20pm
Better than zero but 689K towards debt is peanuts when you compare it to 1.9 billion. Just saying. :)
Comment by PipelessPauper on Jul 20, 2021 2:07pm
Fair enough. im also betting on $100 oil (literally - to the tune of $1.3 million in O&G stocks) by Christmas too BUT, I’m an optimist and have been chasing commodity stocks for 13 years... and missed out on $100s of K in other areas. Must be the farmer in me - farmers are well known for being ‘next year’ ppl. But I think it might finally be next year on this bet. So I’m going big.
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