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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Vermilion Energy Inc T.VET

Alternate Symbol(s):  VET

Vermilion Energy Inc. is a Canada-based international energy producer. The Company seeks to create value through the acquisition, exploration, development, and optimization of producing assets in North America, Europe, and Australia. Its business model emphasizes free cash flow generation and returning capital to investors when economically warranted, augmented by value-adding acquisitions. The... see more

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Post by whoLuLu on Jan 19, 2022 4:07pm

a view on SA ..

What If I Told You The Energy Stock Rally Is Just Getting Started?

Jan. 19, 2022 2:09 PM ETDBE, RJN, JJE, JJETF, USO, DBO, USL, BNO, OLEM, OILK, USOI, OLOXF, OILX10 Comments11 Likes

Summary

  • High beta energy stocks are set to further outperform their lower beta counterparts.
  • FANG+ relative to energy is breaking lower.
  • With energy stocks now sporting some of the highest free cash flow yields, the rotation from tech to energy and low beta to high beta energy will continue.
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Every morning, I run through a list of charts I've collected over the past several years to "gauge" the overall market. This mental exercise helps my subconscious to process the charts throughout the day and let my "gut instinct" tell me where we are headed next. Instead of short-term charts, I like to look at the bigger picture ones to form a thesis in my head.

One chart in particular that I've used before is the low beta vs high beta energy stock.

Low beta energy vs high beta energy

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To be exact, it's the oil index (a benchmark of integrated oil majors and large oil producers) versus the oil service index (oilfield servicing companies and high beta oil names). In the realm of the energy sector, these are essentially two polar opposites of the same coin. Integrated oil majors are the most insulated from oil price volatility, while oilfield servicing companies are the most vulnerable since they have no ways of hedging the oil price fluctuation and the E&P spending habits.

In the past, the low beta has always outperformed the high beta names during a bear cycle. You can see that mini gap-up back in 2008-2009. But this cycle has been significantly more brutal than the past lasting from 2014-2020.

As the cycle started to peak in 2020, we saw high beta names materially outperform from March to June 2021. But that outperformance took a pause as new COVID variants sent investors back on the sidelines. This is another reason why for those of you wondering why energy stocks are not living up to their true potential (fair value), look no further than the fund flows.

But as the chart above shows, we're approaching the apex of this short-term pause.

Financial bubble chart

Dr. Jean-Paul Rodrigue

There are a lot of similarities with this financial bubble chart above. There was a parabolic rise with a bull trap (or bear) followed by a drop. But in this case, the "fear phase" is just high beta outperforming low beta names.

Another way we can gauge the overall direction of where energy stocks are headed is by pitting it against the market leaders or the FANG stocks. Looking at the relative chart, there was a surprising break to start 2022.

FANG+ vs energy

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Not a lot of people are talking about this yet, but a breakdown in the FANG+ vs. energy is an indication that energy is going to start to take the leading role going forward.

What's a bit astonishing about our write-up today is that energy stocks are actually performing very well to start the year, and while I'm constantly paranoid, the charts tell me a different story. The low beta vs. high beta energy chart tells me there's a long way to go still in the energy sector rotation rally. Small names are still far from their fair value, and so as the sector rotation continues, remain long high beta names.

Thank you for reading this article. We launched our oil trading portfolio in 2019. The oil trading portfolio is designed to take advantage of short-term long/short oil and energy stock trades in the market. For readers interested in our positioning along with real-time trades, click here to see for yourself.

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Comment by Pandora on Jan 19, 2022 5:11pm
Comments from another forum regarding some stats from AESO on the efficiency of the alternative renewable systems during the recent cold snap. Maybe suggests more review and work to be done. According to the Alberta Electric System Operator (AESO) website, on December 31, 2021 the province's 13 grid-connected solar facilities were rated at 736 megawatts of capacity ...more  
Comment by Ebankbank on Jan 19, 2022 7:51pm
THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Moemoney42 on Jan 19, 2022 9:10pm
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Comment by Oldnagger on Jan 20, 2022 11:50am
Just, an anecdotal tale. While picking up some take-out I noticed a fellow with A Nissan Leaf, parked by a charging station and trying to brush snow off the charging plug . Seems some one had left it in the snow and it was no longer working. Worse, the car owner did not know if it was the charging station or his car. While he was desperately waiting in the cold, I tried to think of some way I ...more  
Comment by Moemoney42 on Jan 20, 2022 12:32pm
Don't mean to laugh at other peoples dilemmas but must say I had to giggle about that.. just like the folks in Alberta with their EV's not being able to produce enough heat to get past minus 12 C inside his vehicle when temps were -35.. no thanks.. I'll let my ICE run until the inside temp is warm enough to drive in a tee shirt when its -35 C.  
Comment by mnztr on Jan 20, 2022 12:34pm
Its  true EVs struggle to heat when -35, but you know what? they don't need to start, or warm up. They just boot up like a cell phone. I have to admit Jan and Feb are a bit of a struggle for my ev with gas backup and it uses a about 30-50% more energy when very cold. But the other 10 months of the year it is FAR better then a gasoline car. 
Comment by Moemoney42 on Jan 20, 2022 12:39pm
Ah yes BUT if you're on the side of the road or standing at a charging station that doesn't work in -35 C you probably won't make it more than a few hours and you're a frozen brick.. the other 10 months of the year won't matter then.. 
Comment by mnztr on Jan 20, 2022 1:18pm
Well you don't run your charge down to the point you have no options. Do you run your gas car down to 5 km range before you gas up?  
Comment by Moemoney42 on Jan 20, 2022 1:32pm
Yes but I'll be able to fill up at many numerous service stations at my liking, and if I'm desperate I can put a jerry can of fuel in my trunk/ truck box, or have someone deliver fuel with that same jerry can.. If I'm stuck in traffic as what happened in the US with this last winter storm where folks had to sit on the side of the road for hours, my ICE can maintain idling to ...more  
Comment by mnztr on Jan 20, 2022 3:01pm
A tesla can prob mainatain heat for at least 14 hours. My ev /gas at least 10 hours. If u think these 1 in 1000 scenarios are worth paying 5x for your transportation energy then have at it.
Comment by Moemoney42 on Jan 20, 2022 5:57pm
If you call -12 C interior on a -35 C day.. I'd hardly call that "heat" LOL.. as far as 5X for my transportation.. not even close.. wait until the gov'ts add a road use tax, and the price of power when you only have one supplier, skyrocket.. Then in 10 years when you have to replace the batteries as they've exhausted their useful life and need to spend 10 thousand dollars to ...more  
Comment by mnztr on Jan 20, 2022 6:36pm
They cannot raise eletricity prices without affecting a whole bunch of other things, You can put solar panels up to charge your car, can't make gasoline in oyur backyard. I am not sure what car that person was drivng so I can't comment. At -35, you would have to run your gas car ffor ages to warm it up. IF it will start. Is your battery a bit old, oh oh.. Road use taxes won't come for ...more  
Comment by Moemoney42 on Jan 20, 2022 10:47pm
Don't be so naieve.. they'll boost those electicity rates at the drop of a hat when they want more tax dollars or profits.. not to mention system upgrades that will be neccessary.. My ice vehicle will warm up in less than 20 minutes, hardly what I'd call "ages" LOL.. solar panels will help, but they're not exactly free are they..! $15-$25,000 bucks to outfit your home ...more  
Comment by Pandora on Jan 20, 2022 7:49pm
MoeMoney42 - just keep in mind that liberal mayors/councils in city's like Vancouver BC have banned gas stations in the city downtown area and will likely continue to widen that circle. Of course property values had already started that trend. It will be interesting to see if and how they accomodate EV's or maybe they will eliminate the use of personal vehicles. I haven't been downtown ...more  
Comment by mnztr on Jan 21, 2022 10:16am
In some european cities they put chargers on light poles. So that is one solution
Comment by mnztr on Jan 20, 2022 12:32pm
THere are some infrasturcture issues with chargers ffor sure. This is why I am glad my EV can also take gas, which I use on long trips (over 100km) unless there are chargers at the other end. How long did it take gas to become as available as horse services when cars were first developed? Or roads for that matter. With EVs you can also just tow them to recharge them. Of course in rural areas you ...more  
Comment by Moemoney42 on Jan 20, 2022 12:35pm
Wow... and that would be with an ICE powered vehicle no doubt.. LOL.. and in order to charge them when towing enough to make it worth while, you may as well just call the tow truck and use them as a taxi service.. not to mention the cost of that miniscule charge.. LOL..
Comment by mnztr on Jan 20, 2022 1:15pm
In an emergency its an option. Can you add range to a gas car by towing it? 
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