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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Seven Generations Energy Ltd. class A common shares T.VII

"Seven Generations Energy Ltd is an independent energy company focused on the acquisition, development, and optimization of high-quality, tight rock, natural gas resource plays. The company employs long-reach and horizontal drilling to produce resources of natural gas, condensate, and natural gas liquids. In addition to drilling operations, Seven Generations owns several gathering lines and... see more

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Post by Sugaree on Feb 03, 2021 6:46pm

Condensate Pricing??

Why is it such a mystery to find info on the internet, like daily prices and an historical chart? I would really appreciate if someone here knows where to get this info.

Thanks in advance.
Comment by Robertboblaw on Feb 03, 2021 7:42pm
Hey sugaree, I'm fairly sure condensate just trades at a 10 to 15% premium to whatever WTI is trading at. Someone on here should know if that's not right but I'm pretty sure it always just tracks WTI plus a small premium.
Comment by Sugaree on Feb 03, 2021 8:11pm
Thanks, I get that but there has to be an Alberta website that has the prices? I guess 10-15% premium and convert to cdn dollar? How could there not be an official posted price each day the way there is for AECO?
Comment by retiredengexec on Feb 04, 2021 9:09am
Rob. Right now Conde is sold for a premium because there is a less US conde imported. Us production is still by 2 million per day. Usually it is within WTI minus 5. You can get the daily price by googling PSAC market which shows daily prices and futures for Brent Wti aeco and Nymex. You cant hedge conde only Wti which gives you a dirty hedge hope this helps.
Comment by Robertboblaw on Feb 04, 2021 6:31pm
Ah thx retiredguy and estevan. There you go sugaree...mystery solved.
Comment by Sugaree on Feb 04, 2021 9:02pm
Yes, thanks guys! I came to the right board, lol.
Comment by EstevanOutsider on Feb 03, 2021 9:02pm
It is not a mystery.   Edmonton Condensate futures can be found: https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/crude-oil/canadian-c5-condensate-index-net-energy.html Daily condy frontmonth pricing can be seen: https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/NYMEX-CC51!/
Comment by Sugaree on Feb 03, 2021 9:14pm
Thanks. I found those earlier, but maybe I am just stupid as I simply dont understand it.  If condensate trades at a premium to WTI and todays close of say $55, what does .932 USD mean? 
Comment by EstevanOutsider on Feb 03, 2021 10:34pm
Condensate does not neccessarily trade at a premium by default. The $0.932 means Edmonton Condensate (C5!) is trading at a 93 cent premium to WTI which the contract is linked to, in that case. There are also different grades of condensate.  Seven Generations to my knowledge is selling into the Edmonton condensate market. From there, there are local benchmarks for condensate. For ...more  
Comment by Sugaree on Feb 04, 2021 8:57am
Ok, I think I got it now with the good explanation, thanks.
Comment by retiredengexec on Feb 04, 2021 1:39am
You get daily and YTD info on PSAC market. You will have to build your own charts. You might get data a on CME.
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