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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Valeura Energy Inc T.VLE

Alternate Symbol(s):  VLERF

Valeura Energy Inc. is an upstream oil and gas company engaged in the production, development, and exploration of petroleum and natural gas in the Gulf of Thailand and the Thrace Basin of Turkiye. The Company holds an operating working interest in four shallow water offshore licenses in the Gulf of Thailand, which include G10/48 (Wassana field), B5/27 (Jasmine and Ban Yen fields), G1/48 (Manora... see more

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Valeura Energy Inc > Q3 thoughts
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Post by HandsomeTaxman on Aug 10, 2023 4:39pm

Q3 thoughts

Long time lurker…..first time poster!  First off, thanks to all the members of this board who have tossed in their valuable knowledge, thoughts and opinions on VLE over the years, it has been helpful.  I’ve been a holder since the dark days of over $4.00 per share.  Finally things seem to be moving in the right direction.  My two cents on what may be in store for Q3 and looking for any comments, agree or disagree, with my fairly basic analysis.

My assumptions for upcoming Q3:
  • 22,000 BBBL/d production
  • $85.00 USD average selling price
  • OPEX at 22.70 per barrel, consistent with Q2
  • CAPEX will be on the high side of guidance at $175,000,000 for the year.  Q1 CAPEX was about $34,000,000 and Q2 CAPEX at $33,600,000.  This leaves $107,400,000 for Q3 and Q4, divided equally at $53,700,000 per upcoming quarter
  • Fixed expenses of $18,500,000.  This removes what was hopefully some one-time expenses in Q2. 
  • Q3 debt repayment of $10,000,000.  This could be higher.
  • I have NOT factored in taxes.   Oh the irony.
  • I’ve reached out to IR to find out the specific timing on when the decommissioning obligations might become due, purely from a cash flow perspective.  I have not heard back yet, so assuming for now this won’t impact cash in the upcoming quarter.
Based on these assumptions, I have VLE retaining approximately $42,500,000 of cash in the upcoming quarter.  Roughly 42 cents a share of quarterly cash growth.    By end of Q3, this should bring us to $130,125,000 of net cash assuming nominal changes to payables/receivables etc., or about a $1.28 a share.

Book value at the end of Q2 stands at $231,857,000, roughly $2.28 per share.  At a trading price say of $2.50 a share, we are only trading with a slight premium to book value.  Using the assumptions above, book value at the end of September 2023 should fall anywhere between $258,000,000 and $288,000,000 – this assumes $50,000,000 of depreciation.  The lower end of the range assumes $30,000,000 of non-cash expenses in OPEX, over and above the 22.70 per barrel OPEX.  On a per share basis, I expect Sept 2023 BV to be $2.54-$2.83 per share.  If the valuation continues to be a slight premium to book, we should see $3.00 per share trading with no other news.  Quarterly cash retention of 42 cents a share, added to our $2.50 trading value, also provides some support for this $3.00 target.

If we can continue to retain 42 cents a share of cash, things are looking great from here.  I’d take that kind of consistent price increase in share price on a quarterly basis all day long, even if the market isn’t giving us enough credit for the potential cash generation.  Turkey deep play is gravy should anything come of this.

The question for me becomes how long our reserves will last with CAPEX of $175,000,000 annually.  I agree with some of the previous posters on dividends being premature at this stage.  We need to acquire more proven reserves to have the market give us some multiples of future earnings.
Firstworld had expressed some concern on the possible contingent payment to Mubadala, possibly as high as $50,000,000.  With respect to FW, I don’t believe this is relevant as it requires crude over $100 per barrel.  In fact, I hope we have to pay them $50,000,000. 

Just a quick down and dirty analysis, by no means substantive.  Take it for what its worth and feel free to critique and I’m happy to update my spreadsheet for comments.   Thanks again for all the comments over the years, and profitable investing everyone!
Comment by windymayor1 on Aug 10, 2023 5:29pm
What are your thoughts on Sean's ability/chance of doing another deal before year end? That will be a hige catalyst to move the needle again.   Acquistions of this magnitude seem very acreative based on VLE's shares structure, expertise and strong cash position. Especially in SE Asia with mature but long lasting RLI, Brent priced assets.  VLE's formula works!  ...more  
Comment by Suppe11 on Aug 10, 2023 7:37pm
They should get their house in order first (reorganization, synergies, stable production, debt to zero etc.) You meant such a great acquisition like Wassana...which would have been the end of this company (or dilution etc.) without the Mubadala acquisition, which sounded more like a "once in a lifetime" and not "standard".
Comment by HandsomeTaxman on Aug 11, 2023 10:58am
I have to believe this is a priority for Sean right now just based on the messaging over the past few quarters.  The narrative continues to be "growth".  Its hard to be patient at times, but i have to remind myself that it wasn't that long ago we were trading at a discount to cash, and now we are trading at a premium to book.  Baby steps.  The one thing that ...more  
Comment by Suppe11 on Aug 10, 2023 8:21pm
22k bpd ? Tough, without Wassana, I guess. The Opex was 70m = 32.4/bbl. Obviously they burried some non cash stuff in the Opex. What was the 18.5m fixed expenses ? Regarding the decomission thing...of course they don't decomission whole fields, but wells, which generate no money anymore...so step by step and tax deductable. When they have to deposit a security for a decomission or something ...more  
Comment by firstworld on Aug 10, 2023 8:32pm
$18M was for severance, retainer and platinium expat relocation to Singapore for quite a few people which is abusive considering none of these bozos are beyond bronze class...living large on backs of SH LOL.
Comment by HandsomeTaxman on Aug 11, 2023 11:17am
I appreciate your comments Suppe11. 22,000 could be tough, this is on their high side of guidance.  I had used it simply because they exited Q2 around here but they are behind their CAPEX for the year.  So with more CAPEX needed Q3 and Q4 to hit their guidance, i was hopeful this will maintain Q2 production numbers.  Fingers crossed anyways. If i change my spreadsheet to 21,000 it ...more  
Comment by Suppe11 on Aug 11, 2023 8:29pm
@handsometaxman Finance cost of 11m were obviously inflated, should come down in the future. The SRB belongs to the fiscal regime there (except for the Jasmin field), they showed it in one of the former presentations.
Comment by HandsomeTaxman on Aug 14, 2023 10:59am
Thanks Suppe11 !
Comment by Carbonbull on Aug 11, 2023 10:19am
thank you for your contribution , from my perspective the only thing that matters is extending the life of the various fields thru infill drilling , so far well done.@ simple measure of success is arresting the decline and haveing quarter on quarter production growth ...this will dramatically change book value.Of secondary importance is demonstrating the competence to manage remediation costs ...more  
Comment by HandsomeTaxman on Aug 11, 2023 11:22am
Thanks Carbonbull, and i agree with your assessment.  I still haven't heard back from Valeura IR on timing of the decommissioning obligations.  Its listed as a non-current liability so i feel comfortable it won't impact cash in the next year, but exactly when becomes important from the standpoint of whether cash can be used to pursue growth opportunities.  
Comment by firstworld on Aug 11, 2023 11:45am
Besides remediation liability the king of elephants is the lack of audited IFRS reporting which is especially serious for Canadian listed companies who are infamous the world over for scams and frauds. Singapore is the worst place to be if running scams so thats a nice safety net VS Canada where it seems 80% listed cos are running scams by incl subsidies and welfare in revenue, no IFRS reporting ...more  
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