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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Veren Inc T.VRN

Alternate Symbol(s):  VRN

Veren Inc. is a Canada-based oil producer with assets in central Alberta and southeast and southwest Saskatchewan. The principal activities of the Company are acquiring, developing and holding interests in petroleum and natural gas properties and assets related thereto through a general partnership and wholly owned subsidiaries. Its core operational areas include Kaybob Duvernay and Alberta... see more

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Veren Inc > AGM tomorrow
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Post by highalpha1 on May 19, 2021 8:39pm

AGM tomorrow

The AGM for CPG is scheduled for tomorrow at 10:00 AM Calgary time. There is a good summary of what CPG has accomplished over the past year in the circular, which includes (among other things):
- 10% removal of operating expenses;
- 10% improvement in well capital costs;
- 5% improvement in base decline rates, and; 
- 13% improvement in year-end 2P net asset value (excluding change in commodity prices)

Even though the past management team was a terrible allocator of shareholder capital, the current appers prudent and is following through with what it guides.  The name of the game for them is debt reduction.  Slide 10 on the May presentation states that CPG's debt to cash flow ratio ratio will drop to 1.6x by 2021 year end (assuming an 2021 average WTI price of $60).  This compares to CPG trading at a much, much higher ratio in 2019.  I am not even going to get into projected 2022 YE numbers, but this company is slated to do well should WTI prices hold.

One point about those who gripe about CPG management issuing shares to themselves.  This is common practice in the energy sector.  However, SEDI data reveals that very few of those who have been issued shares liquidate them; thus, tacitily indicating that they believe that CPG shares are undervalued.  Compare this with, for instance, MEG.  SEDI shows that many management team members who have been issued MEG shares (or who exercise their options) immediately liquidate them on the public market.

Looking forward to seeing this company break the $6 handle in the coming couple of months and move higher further from there.
Comment by Dogsbreakfast4U on May 19, 2021 9:07pm
Funny how two letters came to mind when reading your post.
Comment by iownbmw545 on May 19, 2021 9:45pm
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Comment by Bpultra on May 19, 2021 11:35pm
====================== Oh man ... someone is drinking to much CPG kool-aid!!  ...  the only thing I can bring to the table is they cut the div to buy back shares and if you do some D/D .. just a little.... you will find out the only shares they cut were under the table to themsleves ... this = crooks
Comment by cahclick on May 20, 2021 9:09am
In addition to the dividend bungle and not reducing the float, spending $900 million on a new asset is hardly a disciplined approach to debt reduction (their words). I keep reading what a cash machine CPG will be if oil goes to $70, $80 . . . The flip side is, if oil goes below $50, CPG management has put the company right back behind the debt 8 ball. The recent spend seems more like a Hail ...more  
Comment by Bpultra on May 20, 2021 9:16am
Yes ... but I guess we now are where we are... sometimes no risk no reward... but as you say this all works if oil does not tank... but if oil spikes they will hedge more so CPG should be pretty safe ... if the cash flow increases .. and the crooks cut out giving themselves our shares .. and give us back our div the funds and big boys will come back to the pig pen .. they then can tell the div ...more  
Comment by cahclick on May 20, 2021 9:24am
Agreed but big debt always keeps the brakes on by making hedges mandatory. With low debt, the requirement for hedges is much reduced and allows a company to take advantage of product price spikes. jmo glta  
Comment by Bpultra on May 20, 2021 9:31am
agree =========
Comment by LiquidOctopusV2 on May 20, 2021 9:36am
It may also been good to consider that current hedging strategy is for 2021.  If the oil price stabilizes at a high rate, CPG could reduce it.  
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Comment by highalpha1 on May 20, 2021 11:31am
I understand your point of view, Cahclick.  However, I am looking at it this way.  At 2020 year end, CPG had a net debt of $2.1 billion (which was brought down to $2.0 billion as of end of Q1 2021).  In buying the Keybob assets from Shell (transaction effective as of April 1 2021), they added $700 million in debt (and issued 50 million shares to their float).  If WTI averages ...more  
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Comment by Moemoney42 on May 20, 2021 11:43am
Absolutely they are good metrics highalpha.. not to mention the diversification into a liquids rich play like the Montenay is a great additiion to the current holdings prior to the acquisition.. this is what the company needed to leverage cash flow into the future.. although some posters here can't see that.. but then again.. look at the sources... say no more.. LOL..
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