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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Veren Inc T.VRN

Alternate Symbol(s):  VRN

Veren Inc. is a Canada-based oil producer with assets in central Alberta and southeast and southwest Saskatchewan. The principal activities of the Company are acquiring, developing and holding interests in petroleum and natural gas properties and assets related thereto through a general partnership and wholly owned subsidiaries. Its core operational areas include Kaybob Duvernay and Alberta... see more

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Veren Inc > Oil is over $70 US and CPG is under $5 Canadian
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Post by Redfoxy on Jul 11, 2021 10:42pm

Oil is over $70 US and CPG is under $5 Canadian

this says it all.  Great company, being run by great people and pumped by great pumpers.
Oh yes, the price of oil has no bearing on CPG share price as most of production is hedged...how sorry is that explanation.

Guess I will wait for that dividend cheque from CPG and see if I can buy a box of Klenex to cry in.
Comment by TrendSwapper on Jul 11, 2021 11:16pm
Actually, every $1 US/WTI increase over a fully funded price of $40 US/WTI gives them about $35 million in excess cash flow. Do the math at this price!
Comment by Jonny2fingers on Jul 12, 2021 12:44am
Forgive me if you will, but I didn't use a calculator...just some quick math on the back of a napkin...and I come up with $1,000,000,000.  For any illiterates out there, that's $1 BILLION...
Comment by JamesT on Jul 12, 2021 2:04am
That's fine and dandy but since April 1st for every $1 US/WTI increase over the price of $62 US/WTI this stock's price decreased by 3.5 cents. 
Comment by LiquidOctopusV2 on Jul 12, 2021 8:54am
Which is how you know the market isn't buying rationally.  I don't trust any single analyst (maybe Eric Nuttall) but I do take analyst consensus seriously.  The price will go up.  The upside is huge. 
Comment by Anschutz on Jul 12, 2021 11:06am
Who cares. If the only people making money are insiders then the government may as well nationalize the sector/resource.  At least then that $35 mil for every $1 increase is going into government/peoples coffer rather than private pockets. Management and boards need to sit up and take action by paying a dividend to attract more investors. With more investors sharing in the wealth it will be ...more  
Comment by Tommy123 on Jul 12, 2021 11:08am
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Comment by LiquidOctopusV2 on Jul 12, 2021 8:51am
For the remainder of the years I think the hedging is around 40%, so it's not most. 
Comment by Redfoxy on Jul 12, 2021 9:10am
ok so its 40% so you missed the point that this is not reacting at all to price of oil if 60% is unhedged.  So now waiting for all the bloaters to wade in and say...hang in, this will move one day.  Of course it will.  As the saying goes, every dog has its day and this dog is long overdue.
Comment by LiquidOctopusV2 on Jul 12, 2021 1:07pm
When the company is potentially rubbing up against a billion dollars cash flow, hedged or market price for WTI/b doesn't matter.  The market isn't reacting to the money.  I think people are still not confident in recovery from COVID19.  It's not just CPG that's trading at low levels.   
Comment by Bpultra on Jul 12, 2021 2:52pm
7 Day Return -9.5% CPG -1.4% CA Oil and Gas -0.2% CA Market ==========
Comment by LiquidOctopusV2 on Jul 12, 2021 3:12pm
Ya, this sucks. 
Comment by CdnOilObserver on Jul 12, 2021 7:16pm
All Canadian energy companies are selling at a steep discount to where they should be at > WTI +$70.  This is the Trudeau discount - when you have a Federal government scaring away capital that is necessary to sustain industry. What these companies need to do is attract long term investors by returning capital to the shareholders through meaningful and signficant NCIB's  -  ...more  
Comment by Tommy123 on Jul 12, 2021 7:46pm
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Comment by LiquidOctopusV2 on Jul 12, 2021 9:23pm
FYI:  A source who comes here to tease people about Trudeau destoying the value of their investments claims to have special inside information on the timing of the Canadian Election. 
Comment by Chad123 on Jul 13, 2021 9:30am
What about the surprise carbon announcement that you stated on the Suncor board mr government whip?
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