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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Canopy Growth Corp T.WEED

Alternate Symbol(s):  T.WEED.DB | CGC

Canopy Growth Corporation is a cannabis company. It delivers innovative products with a focus on premium and mainstream cannabis brands, including Doja, 7ACRES, Tweed, and Deep Space, in addition to category-defining vaporizer technology made in Germany by Storz & Bickel. The principal activities of the Company are the production, distribution and sale of a diverse range of cannabis and... see more

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Canopy Growth Corp > Since Constellation bought in:
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Post by Savage97 on Feb 07, 2021 12:39am

Since Constellation bought in:

-They've lost a ton of market share

-Lost hundreds of millions, and over a billion quarterly for 2 years now. You dont even need to wait long to see their next edition (Tuesday)

-They've been closing and selling inefficient assets in part because they overbuilt and in part because their weed was bad. I held a Canopy script for 4 years as I wont invest unless Ive used the product. Their name recogition in Canada is synonymous with terrible hay weed.

-Their return on capital is atrocious and they have no chance of profitability for 2 more years. That would be ok if they were growing by leaps and bounds... they are however shrinking their operational footprint. They were aiming for 40% of the market out of the gate. A few years in, they have closer to 10%

-In several quarters, Canopy margins are far lower than Aphrias european medical distribution business!! This one is my favorite because everyone loves to dump on CC pharma. Canopy's cost per gram is no longer published because its so bad

-A little disappointed they havent accomplished more internationally when they had such an amazing lead in the space. 2 years ago, nobody had the international reach of CGC. They let that slide.

-Acreage is the very worst run MSO in the USA and they way overpaid for it, even after it was renegotiated. It will take all $5b from the next round of warrants to turn that asset worth owning. Acreage is a package of licenses that are getting less valuable by the day.

-Hexo sells more drinks than Canopy Auxly sells more edibles, and Aphria sells more vapes. There's no piece of the space that Canopy dominates except pet care after their latest launch.

-Nobody leads like Canopy... their follow through and ability to monetize their first mover advantage leaves much to be desired.

A great narrative around here is that Canopy is the gorilla and their priority was always the USA. Thats 100% nonsense, and all their investor decks, md & as, presentations and interviews older than last year will confirm that for anyone who wants to look. There was an 18 month period where Canopy was aggressive with Aphria and LHS, when they tried to get APHA delisted for jumping the gun with US entry. Bruces never ending line was, we will not enter the US market until it is federally perrnissible. It was only after that lockup agreement thar the narrative changed.

They full on lost the race to be the dominant player in the first nationally legal market on earth. They couldnt scale, grow and sell efficiently in a market 1/10th the size of the USA, and theyve alreagy given away the farm to STZ... so with all that in mind, outside hype, I sincerely dont see any upside for Canopy as they've not demonstrated the ability to deploy capital efficiently. I dont care if they have $10B more in capital to allocate when TRUL, GTII and APHA can manage the same with a fraction of that.

To those deeply invested in CGC, I sincerely hope you make mad gainz, and I think many will this year. They are a hype machine and their assets and brands are powerful and widely recognized. Their positioning is great, their contacts and connections are great, they are diversified and have a command of marketing that is unequal, they have amazing reach, and deep pockets, resources, commitments, and distribution capabilities from STZ, but in the end, the fact is - operationally, they are a damn mess thats still being cleaned up.

I dont want to own them at this point because when I look around, I just see far more opportunity. I want a company on the rise, not a fixer upper. In 2 years time, if Klein keeps doing what he's doing, I may reload with some of the cash they earned me a couple years ago.

Long read, sorry. Hope it helps the bear case at least. Not looking to full on debate with anyone or be trashed for taking time to post my own thoughts so anyone who wants to make a strong bull case, I would sincerely love to read it. Just dont attack me for having my own views please.

GLTA!!

Comment by MrVoulpez on Feb 07, 2021 1:07am
Lol. Well I am up about $150,000 since buying into canopy. So why don't you go back to whatever pathetic life you live... And spend more time trying to figure out why you are so pathetic
Comment by Savage97 on Feb 07, 2021 11:07am
LOL!  You should follow your own advice.  You think up 150K is a lot do you?  Makes sense since your unwilling to have a discussion about the facts, the message was copied from Weedstocks.  GLTA
Comment by WestCoast78 on Feb 07, 2021 1:35pm
wow, I had to log out to see. That boy band member savage is back trolling here eh?  What's up the apha fan club coming over here?  I guess they are jealous, they are running out growth runway, and have ZERO path to usa.  Their strategy, if you can call it that, is hope. Hoping Irwin can make some sort of deal to enter the USA space.   Good luck with that.  lol
Comment by ArnoldLayne on Feb 07, 2021 11:09am
All good points, thanxs for sharing. Lets talk products... Tweed beverages, especially the Bakerstreet ginger ale, are my favorite. Hexo expanded their offers but I havent yet tried them all. As for haschish, I tried the 8 differents available in Qc. and the Tremblant brand is by far my fav. Been looking to take a position here in Weed. Currently owning Hexo, sp sitting around 25% of its ATH ...more  
Comment by Savage97 on Feb 08, 2021 8:30am
I copied the message from weedstocks to see if investors on here should could counter the points made from a former Canopy investor..  So far the responses remind me of Trump supporters lol.  GLTA 
Comment by Trennam on Feb 08, 2021 11:31am
Here is a relevant rebuttal, plus full link at bottom that has a lot more to counter this idiots Canopy hate envy: "qwertysac All in CGC: They've lost a ton of market share. They were aiming for 40% of the market out of the gate. A few years in, they have closer to 10% They are still right up there in the top 2 along with Aphria and have recently regained some of ...more  
Comment by MrVoulpez on Feb 08, 2021 11:46am
Well said my friend :) Clearly anyone that comes here and says anything negative is betting against the stock. Canopy has established an ecosystem that leads long term and sustainable success!
Comment by charliebitmyfin on Feb 08, 2021 12:49pm
since earnings are supposedly down, maybe get off the titanic before close