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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum West Fraser Timber Co Ltd T.WFG

Alternate Symbol(s):  WFG

West Fraser Timber Co. Ltd. is a diversified wood products company. The Company is engaged in manufacturing, selling, marketing and distributing lumber, engineered wood products, including oriented strand board (OSB), laminated veneer lumber (LVL), medium-density fiberboard (MDF), plywood, particleboard, pulp, newsprint, wood chips and other residuals and renewable energy. Its products are used... see more

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West Fraser Timber Co Ltd > Buybacks and horizons
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Post by dosperros on Aug 24, 2021 9:17am

Buybacks and horizons

Off the top of my head WF can earn $1 billion CAD in trough markets. Presently a small fraction goes to divs. But, most co's can easily allocate 1/2 of cash to this and one day WF will I suspect. Today?  That's about $5/share. 


That 5.6% yield implies a $120 cad type ceiling in poor markets.  


My point on buybacks is that if you cancel 50% of shares... near term given torque to panels etc... that same
allocation of cash is worth $10/share. Put a 11% yield on this and it's much more than a $120 ceiling.  


mgmt will choose this as they are mandated to hold large volumes of shares. CEO role is 3x salary in mandatory shares as I recall. 


so, this is why this happens. Arbitrage ops abound but hey it's a multi year play. I'm not looking to run at anyone but captital intensive businesses rarely thrive doing the "Norbord thing" of big divs -- they were beneficiaries of a consolidated and disciplined market, which is not lumber. That must be tamed, and it will be.


last of all things like sell side guys (Sean, Paul, etc) don't wag the dog.  Marketing and branding is about intent not 3rd party sign off. They need to show intent that their capital allocation strategy is reasonable and suitable.

Comment by Kojacks88 on Aug 24, 2021 10:57pm
Dosperros good to here you chime in.  Dad I get it, with killer Q2 earnings from the top 4 lumber companies at least, the dam futures ruined a quick ride to the top.  The pandemic was a wierd one for the lumber market...so many opportunities to buy low sell high and buy on the big dip again and sell, think I counted 3 X's.  Or just have diamond hands and set it at a high limit ...more  
Comment by Kojacks88 on Aug 25, 2021 1:09am
https://canadawood.org/analysis-the-changing-softwood-lumber-market-in-china/
Comment by Frost19 on Aug 25, 2021 3:00pm
If China's inventories are low because they didn't buy much at 1000+ pricing in the first half of this year then that’s very bullish for lumber going forward. With prices being more normal ~$500 you can expect them to start importing a lot more for the next 1-2 years to catch up. You often see China stocking up when oil is cheap and slowing buying when they believe it’s expensive. I doubt ...more  
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