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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Western Copper and Gold Corp T.WRN

Alternate Symbol(s):  WRN

Western Copper and Gold Corporation is a Canada-based mining company. The Company is engaged in developing the Casino Project. The Casino Project is a copper-gold mining project in Yukon, Canada. The Casino porphyry copper-gold-molybdenum deposit is located in west central Yukon, in the northwest trending Dawson Range mountains, approximately 300 kilometers (km) northwest of the territorial... see more

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Western Copper and Gold Corp > Dividends & Growth Balance
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Post by jclarke042 on Feb 23, 2022 10:05am

Dividends & Growth Balance

If we insist on copying/pasting pump articles, can we at least keep it to those specifically mentioning Rio or Western? For instance, apropos of Rio's earnings release today, Rhiannon Hoyle of Dow Jones:


"Rio Tinto PLC's highest-ever dividend payout isn't coming at the expense of growth, and reflects the strength of the miner's current cash flow, Chief Financial Officer Peter Cunningham said.

The world's second largest mining company by market value on Wednesday reported a record annual dividend of $10.40 a share, as net earnings surged on strong commodity prices.

"The fact that we are paying out 79% [of underlying earnings] really is just reflective of the strength of our cash flow," Mr. Cunningham told The Wall Street Journal. Rio Tinto's policy is to give investors, via dividends, 40%-60% of underlying earnings on average through commodity cycles.

"We do believe our cash flow enables us to continue with that strong and attractive return to shareholders, [while] investing in decarbonization and investing in growth," he said. He highlighted Rio Tinto's net cash balance of $1.58 billion at the end of 2021. The miner ended 2020 with net debt of $664 million.

Miners have been hesitant to invest heavily in new projects and deals since a number of those made at the peak of a commodity boom a decade ago soured, instead favoring large cash returns to shareholders. But some analysts are questioning how and when companies will increase their focus on growth, especially as stunted investment in new projects raises the specter of supply crunches.

"One challenge for Rio... is a relative lack of organic growth," Jefferies said in a client note on Wednesday. "Cash flow and capital returns matter most for now, but the company will need to pivot to growth at some point, and this likely means M&A."

Comment by Sooner on Feb 23, 2022 10:56am
Great highlight ---- and i think i mentioned similar a few days ago that matched Jefferies comment....at some point investors are going to say "wait a minute....I'm paying 20% tax rate on all that dividends......I'd prefer they reinvest more of that to ensure future dividends are secure....." And ok Clarky....Sooner will quite pumping.....you heard it first from the One and Only ...more  
Comment by Arrowhead77 on Feb 23, 2022 11:35am
Sooner close enouigh!
Comment by Heywood_Silvers on Feb 23, 2022 10:18pm
Hah-hah Sooner!  Some of us plebes aren't in that 20% dividends tax bracket.  Gotta be pulling down a half million or more to pay 20%.  If you are at risk of cracking that threshold, pare back your cap gains.  I mean, unless you really need a million or more annually to live on.
Comment by Sooner on Feb 24, 2022 7:58am
Good point - sorry 15%....but that's why I've loaded up my Roth with WRN..,.hopefully nice transfer of 10-15 shares WRN to Rio would be excellent (for me anyway)....and then let the dividends roll into my Roth's all tax free for life!!!!!!
Comment by MetalMinded on Feb 24, 2022 8:03am
That's been my approach too Sooner.  Roth = capital gains tax free + dividends tax free.   All my high risk - high reward investments are in my Roth.  
Comment by Sooner on Feb 24, 2022 11:22am
Sooner = + 8000 shares today  get to buying ladies ---
Comment by nmpappy78 on Feb 24, 2022 1:21pm
Good ROTH IRA move!  My wife and I have been doing it for 16+ years now and the potential tax free gains are staggering!!!!  Happy to hear you figured it out...
Comment by Pinegrove1 on Feb 24, 2022 1:29pm
Same as TFSA in Canada. That's where my WRN is. 
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