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Primary Symbol: T.TD Alternate Symbol(s):  TD | T.TD.PF.A | TDOPF | T.TD.PF.C | T.TD.PF.D | TDBKF | TDOMF | T.TD.PF.E | T.TD.PF.I | T.TD.PF.J

The Toronto-Dominion Bank (the Bank) operates as a bank in North America. The Bank's segments include Canadian Personal and Commercial Banking, U.S. Retail, Wealth Management and Insurance, and Wholesale Banking. Its Canadian Personal and Commercial Banking segment offers a full range of financial products and services to approximately 15 million customers in the Bank’s personal and commercial... see more

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Post by bartno12001 on Oct 12, 2024 3:37pm

Update

So guys I phoned my royal bank advisor friend. This is the same guy that helped me before with td and I wanted to know what he thought now. 
 
In short he is disappointed. He was also expecting that td would recover to $100 after AML settlement but the facts that came out plus the asset cap/monitoring is a big headache to deal with. He was saying that there were some good things and some bad. Good points were that there were only 3 scenarios of money laundering. The way TD AML was running it was a joke and he was saying that TD is just very lucky that this is all that happened. Bad were that after the settlement there are numerous questions and numerous issues that td has to deal with
 
I told him about my situation and quite frankly he said that at this time TD is not a stock you can invest in. The people that bought at 90 or 100 then perhaps they hold or average down in the 60s but for me he said I should just sell and move on. Td is going to be in the doghouse for years to come (easy 3 to 5 years) and td has always been slow and this AML remediation will be slow as well plus they are also dealing with US govt. Without a doubt their earnings will take a hit. He was saying that with the way selling was done over the past few days TD will go to low 70s easy and as earnings get affected he says it could come down to low 60s. Perhaps even mid 50s if economy or market turn bad. At this point I was like wow and told him royal just put a target price of 82 just yesterday and he said it will be reduced as time goes by or when td does it's earnings release. His reasoning behind this was that right now expectations for td eps are around 8 per year and no way td is getting more than a PE of 9 (which is what scotia had before) so that 72 (9x8). Plus after you factor in low eps with more years and you start seeing low to mid 60s. There will be far better opportunity to buy a few years from now. Big institutions will sell as some of the large investors have been holding for years or decades and they are sitting on so much profit that even 80 price was good for them. He was saying even 70 is a good for them. It remains to be seen what Td can do and how they handle AML remediation and how the new ceo performs but for now there are more questions than answers and that uncertainty will drag the stock lower.
 
Dividend is safe but my friend doesn't think td can maintain the same dividend growth (best case 5%) but he thinks it will be 3% to 5% growth instead of the 7% to 9% which td have done in the past. This would also put pressure on the stock price. He doesnt think td will be buying their shares at all for 3 years or until the AML matter is almost done. 
 
At this time he suggested bns and cibc for banks. He can't say anything about ry and he is a little weary on bmo. And NA stock performance has been as good as RY. So there you have it guys. This is the nuts and bolts of it. I am so out. I won't even hesitate in selling even at 75 on Tuesday. It's a big big disappointment for A LOT of people. Good luck everyone 
 
Comment by LongoGlueStick on Oct 12, 2024 4:11pm
Sell your shares and move on.  I'm buying more TD bank on Tuesday when the TSX opens back up. What they have done is disappointing but this is a 20 year hold for me.  Things will turn around when Masrani is gone.
Comment by bartno12001 on Oct 15, 2024 8:36am
Longogluestick I am selling at open. All the best
Comment by bartno12001 on Oct 15, 2024 9:45am
I sold at 77.75. Lost 1400 but I am fine Bought vrn, bce, tixt, bns and had to wait until td sold to placed other orders.  All the best guys. See you next year if it's lower otherwise no problem. 
Comment by flamingogold on Oct 15, 2024 10:59am
Buy high, sell low. Why? This too will pass.
Comment by LongoGlueStick on Oct 15, 2024 3:50pm
So while investors are selling TD Bank in a panic, I'm happy to announce that I bought another 41 shares at $77.77 Canadian today. Yes, the next five years for TD will be rough. Yes, what management did was negligent and incompetent. However, when investing in Canadian banks, one needs to take a long term approach.   TD Bank is a 20 year hold for me. It's easy to take a long term ...more  
Comment by vinebills on Oct 15, 2024 4:11pm
You wont have to wait that long .....give it like 2 months and all will forget about this and move on ( 3 days panic selling kind of abated, another dollar or two downside probably, none of what was announced was new info. All expected a wells fargo style resoultion, this is just emotional reaction). Sit back and collect the divy. ( TD is geographically hedged with a heavy tilt towards Canada and ...more  
Comment by newcoin on Oct 12, 2024 4:15pm
Thanks for sharing information from your friend. However, I couldn't disagree more with him. The share price will never get anywhere near the numbers that he gave you. 50s and 60s? You gotta be kidding me. I don't think it's gonna go below 75. Anyway, we'll find out soon. A lot of fear mongering going on. Shame.
Comment by bartno12001 on Oct 12, 2024 5:42pm
I am in the same boat newcoin. I also have 600 shares. For now I am probably going to lose 1.5k-3k.. but I have accepted it. All the best man. Appreciate it I will be spending time over this weekend figuring out where to put my money. Have a good long weekend 
Comment by Warosar on Oct 13, 2024 11:10am
I'm in the same boat, sold Thursday and I'm looking to park it somewhere.  Only stock that looks decently priced on TSX is EMA.  However, I'm thinking of waiting until December.  Maybe we get a selloff?
Comment by Ocalaman on Oct 13, 2024 10:37am
I wouldn't put too much faith in any advisor at any bank, last week they mayhave been flipping burgers. Thier Financial analyst who is paid by the bank Darko Mihelic reduced from 88 to 82 and a SP from OP. Too make informed dicisions you need to read the financials, understand the company and decide whether its  along term prospect or not. With all respect it appears from your postings ...more  
Comment by DeanEdmonton on Oct 13, 2024 10:49am
Ocalaman - well said, particularly the comment about in house Bank Financial advisors. Would be hard to find a less well trained crew of people. I will add, that listening to supposed expert analysts hasn't paid off well either. If this RBC analyst actually knew his stuff, why had he not reduced his TD target price 3 or 6 months ago already. They look out the window, check the weather, then ...more  
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