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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum biOasis Technologies Ord Shs V.BTI.H

Alternate Symbol(s):  BIOAF

Bioasis Technologies Inc. is a Canada-based biopharmaceutical company focused on research and development of technologies and products intended for the treatment of patients with nervous system, including central nervous system, diseases and disorders. The Company is engaged in the development of its xB 3 platform, which is a peptide-based technology, for the transport of therapeutic agents, in... see more

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biOasis Technologies Ord Shs > What Types of News Are Possible?
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Post by JDavenport on Dec 10, 2022 4:08pm

What Types of News Are Possible?

Since my post revealing GD's calls to shareholders inviting them to a meeting with DrDR on Tuesday, I have received many emails, texts and calls, including one I answered just a few minutes ago, about what kind of news do I expect Bioasis to release.
 
Of course, I don't know, so let's look at the possibilities. I've mentioned some types of news, news that I wish to see (a cash-rich xB3-001 deal), bad news (selling the company for 25¢ and a cup of coffee), neutral news (borrowing more money from Lind) or even no news where "you gotta be there" to listen to DrDR preach, "Next year will be great!" 
 
Some of the people who have reached out to me believe that Bioasis is at an inflection point, a do or die moment, and have expressed that if there isn't good news then they will begin offloading their shares, cutting their losses, as one put it. It might be wise to be a little more circumspect than that.
 
Bad news is bad news, and everybody will have to deal with it as they see fit. I don't see news so bad that we'll see a 5¢ stock. But no news will cause concern. Shareholders are not in the mood for a pep talk on Tuesday if there's no news.
 
Good news will cause a mixture of responses. I think there may be many shareholders who just want out and will turn good news, no matter what it is, into a liquidity event. If good news is based on a deal indicating confidence in xB3, then the sky is the limit for other xB3 deals. Shareholders should consider that. 
 
Neutral news is different. The instinctive decision to sell may not be wise if the news is neutral. Take, for instance, news that Bioasis has entered a partnership with a pharma that involves the Cresence EGF program. Let's say the program is for $5 million up front and the pharma looks after the upcoming clinical trials. Although that's good news, it's nevertheless not news about xB3, and it's news that won't produce more news for 18 months to 2 years down the road. That news could also cause a liquidity event, the result of which could be a lower share price. That kind of news is somewhere between neutral and good, in my opinion. It's doesn't address the xB3 question.
 
But there is news about xB3 that could appear quite neutral. Let's say that Chiesi and Bioasis announce that an xB3 LSD enzyme is moving into FDA IND application phase. Even if there was an accompanying milestone payment, that news wouldn't mean much of anything to some shareholders, and may not trigger new investors, at all. But in reality, it's a sleeper.

The "IND Application" news means that whatever work Chiesi has done has shown positive results with xB3, good enough to initiate clinical rials. We've never had that kind of news, not once. It's important news, but the share price might drop. So rather than selling and locking in losses because it wasn't obviously good news, maybe it's a good time to buy because of the validation it gives to xB3. Remember, validate xB3 only once and it begins to open the doors for many more deals.
 
Similar news from Oxyrane, Aposense, Janssen or others could be very good news because none of these companies have paid anything yet. They would almost certainly require a deal to move an xB3 drug into IND phase. Not only would such deals be validating of xB3, but they would also bring money. These types of of deals also portend more xB3 deals.
 
Another neutral, probably "kiss-your-sister" kind of news, would be borrowing more money through the Lind LOC. It keeps the lights on, would be enough to pay me and less important people, but it would be a definite signal that the company believes it's months away, at least, from a significant deal. The market will take a big dump. I would expect.
 
I think the real lesson could be that it's wise to look at the news, especially news that looks rather neutral, and try to determine if it suggests that there's more to come. Certainly, any regulatory move with xB3 is good, as is any type of true business deal involving xB3.
 
But remember the investing rule of thumb, that a stock that has been essentially dormant with a low share price for a long time may need to have 25% or more of outstanding shares to be traded before the share price can double. If the news is good then the price may immediately rise and then shortly stall, or even drop. 
 
Unbridled enthusiasm, Stoopid Dayz, are swell to watch while they're on, but not much fun if the shares you chased to 50¢ drop to 38¢ by closing time.
 
And if you sell at 38¢, don't get all depressed if it closes at 50¢, or a dollar the week after. You wanted out. You got your wish. You're not a victim. You acted on your own best judgement and you don't have to worry about those damn BTI shares ever again. Move on, like I'm not.
 
jd
 
 
 
Comment by ronrydell on Dec 10, 2022 4:55pm
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Comment by beenthere on Dec 10, 2022 7:37pm
Since I have had the experience of being invested in BTI for 10 years plus.... And since from experience I am a glass half empty type of guy .... I am going to bet anywhere from no news  to bad news to neutral news .... ...unless before Tuesday JD comes up with even more choices! ( And no I do realize JD had some positive choices but we know they don't apply in BTI's case)
Comment by KayakerBC on Dec 10, 2022 7:48pm
I am going to bet anywhere from no news  to bad news to neutral news .... I take that bet.  First paragraph here clearly indicates it will be significantly positive.
Comment by KayakerBC on Dec 10, 2022 7:57pm
Okay, I'll qualify that a bit better.  Cleanup in aisle 6. I'll take that bet.  First paragraph here indicates to me it will be significantly positive.  I don't think multiple folks would be distorting the message.
Comment by beenthere on Dec 10, 2022 7:59pm
Actually there is one thing that I would take as positive news .... DrDR is going to step down as CEO. Well KBC if you are so sure I guess you are going to be a BIG buyer Monday! For myself I got greedy Friday and changed my sell order from 17 cents to 20. And of course I didn't get filled! Well, there is always Monday. You never know!
Comment by KayakerBC on Dec 10, 2022 8:26pm
Well KBC if you are so sure I guess you are going to be a BIG buyer Monday! No, for a variety of reasons.   Good news and where the stock price goes are two very different events.  And what if I bought your shares?  I'd have to hose them down at least before allowing them into my account.
Comment by JDavenport on Dec 10, 2022 8:39pm
Yup, I agree, KBC. I give the best odds for good news.   It's hard to give odds on even the types of news, let alone on specific news. Whatever it is, it's already known to Bioasis, and there are so many sources for Bioasis news, probably up to two dozen, that picking something is fraught with whimsy. (I don't know if that last phrase has any meaning but it was fun to write. . ...more  
Comment by beenthere on Dec 10, 2022 8:58pm
Wow JD, you have outdone yourself with that post! I'm impressed how precise you are! Of course ,  I am sure you realize your post will still be here come Tuesday ( if not I have made sure I saved a copy)) Come Tuesday you will be a hero or a zero depending on news! History is not in your favour I am afraid!
Comment by beenthere on Dec 10, 2022 8:50pm
KFC, do what you want with them. I'll have my money and you will be left holding a bigger bag hosed down or not!
Comment by KayakerBC on Dec 10, 2022 10:42pm
KFC, do what you want with them. Beenthere, if I wanted more shares I would have bought at 0.165 on Friday when the big sell order hit.  I wouldn't wait so I could buy from you for 0.20.  Really I wouldn't. Perhaps engage and focus a few more brain cells on this (I think they might be firing randomly). Why would Dr Dr be flying around Canada in the winter and why would they be  ...more  
Comment by prophetoffactz on Dec 10, 2022 11:57pm
"Actually there is one thing that I would take as positive news .... DrDR is going to step down as CEO." Rathjen landed a multi-product option agreement with the world's largest healthcare company(ie., J&J) this year. The option expires at the latest in about 35 business days. At the earliest it expires at the conclusion of research which may be right now. We are in the HOT ...more  
Comment by KayakerBC on Dec 11, 2022 12:16am
Oh my, we're in the 23,470% premium top 20 HOT ZONE !!!! Project pump-til-Tuesday engaged !!!  All Ahead Flank !!!
Comment by prophetoffactz on Dec 11, 2022 12:30am
"The key is that BTI has more than one party interested in the xB3 cancer assets, it appears. That can lead to a bidding war that helps secure a more efficient price. More than just the xB3 Herceptin asset may also be at stake. BTI appears interested in a broader deal for its cancer assets and has done work beyond Herceptin. BTI has narrowed its own focus outside of cancer." August
Comment by prophetoffactz on Dec 11, 2022 12:43am
KayakerBC, "I think BTI is at 13.5 cents because of investor concerns about the upcoming Phase II GBS trial financing and dilution and the NASDAQ listing.  I suspect we'll be going into both at current stock prices.  It would take a partner's clinical trial starting very soon to change that IMO." July 25 He thought we were heading for a $.135 financing but just ~1 ...more  
Comment by KayakerBC on Dec 11, 2022 10:08am
Hey POOF.  Anybody who posts comments about the stock price or where it's headed is going to be wrong a lot.  That includes me.  So knock yourself out bro. You don't ever make a comment or prediction about the stock price.  It takes a special kind of person to criticize others but not post any predictions yourself.  As if you would get it right.  LOL.    ...more  
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