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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Copper Fox Metals Inc V.CUU

Alternate Symbol(s):  CPFXF

Copper Fox Metals Inc. is a Canadian resource company focused on copper exploration and development in Canada and the United States. The principal assets of the Company and its wholly owned Canadian and United States subsidiaries, being Northern Fox Copper Inc. and Desert Fox Copper Inc., are the 25% interest in the Schaft Creek Joint Venture with Teck Resources Limited on the Schaft Creek... see more

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Copper Fox Metals Inc > The Old-New Reality of Copper Fox Metals
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Post by Ecrevissecon on Dec 30, 2021 1:31pm

The Old-New Reality of Copper Fox Metals

The year 2021 showed all investors that Copper Fox Metals is somewhat mismanaged and/or over-hyped.  I, for one, became extremely disillusioned by the various CUU press releases this past few months and reality hit us all in the face:
  1. the long-awaited Schaft Creek joint venture project PEA (preliminary economic assessment) came out as extremely disappointing because it should have been four times higher than reported!  Where did 4 billion dollars of new value, supposedly created by improved technology and logistics, go?  This sad outcome now means that Schaft Creek is not the foremost copper mine project in British Columbia anymore but just another good, possible long-term venture.
  2. because of this low-value PEA, the majority shareholder of the joint venture project, TECK, might not set its eyes on the prize as we hoped.  Instead, TECK will probably concentrate all its energy on Galore Creek where more than half a billion dollars of investments have already been expanded so far.  Not a good omen for CUU shareholders.
  3. the fact that the 2021 exploration and drilling season was totally mishandled, delayed too long and then stopped short by bad weather in the Fall was also a frustrating event.  Something like merely 1/5th of the drilling was achieved, therefore preventing management at CUU to properly assess the final value of the Schaft Creek mine for selling purposes.
  4. at the moment, CEO Elmer Stewart at CUU must be praying hard to have enough 2021 results to produce some kind of an acceptable report at the end of Q2 in March 2022 to sugar coat an hypothetical sale of the joint venture project.  He will be lucky if he can accumulate enough data from the poor 2021 season to do this.
  5. the majority shareholder of CUU, Ernesto Echavarria, has repeatedly shown in the past decade that he does not care about the CUU share price.  He is in no rush to increase the value of the firm on the stock market; he clearly would rather accumulate more shares through private placements and wait until he can maximize the value of the various properties to a higher amount before selling.  He is very patient and he does not care about timelines.  That is why I believe that he might want more drilling and more exploration at Schaft Creek in 2022 and 2023 because the 2021 season failed.  Thus, more waiting for us, shareholders.
  6. the news about the Van Dyke mine in Arizona felt like the last nail in the coffin: 5 years of waiting to get all the various permits?  Are you kidding me?  This, again, puts a very cold shower on all expectations of quick and prosperous sale announcements in 2022.
 
We now have to accept the fact that our junior mining firm is not going to create massive share price value for its shareholders soon.  We have potentially great assets but the desire to sell them fast and to achieve an amazing price growth in the near future is definitely not a reality.  And this has been our CUU story since the first PEA in 2013…
 
            The only positive aspect that I can see in 2022 is that TECK appears to be drowning in cash.  If TECK decides to look at CUU more closely, it might want to buy the Schaft Creek joint venture project in its entirety next year.  We have to wait for the TECK annual report in January 2022 to discover if they actually care about Schaft Creek, or not.  As I wrote before on this board, I often feel that TECK simply wants to run down CUU and force it over time to liquidate its shares of the joint venture project at bankruptcy rates.  TECK can wait and do nothing about Schaft Creek for years, if it wants.  And Ernesto will prefer to be paid in TECK shares for a sale, not in cash, for tax purposes.  This means that TECK controls the entire game, and CUU does not seem to want to take the initiative.  Seems like dj vu to me all over again...
 
            In short, this is my picture of the firm at the end of December 2021.  We must wait and hope for a miracle or decisive action from CUU.
 
            Best wishes for 2022 to all,
Comment by SunnyDaze68 on Dec 30, 2021 2:34pm
man you are full of B.S, you are all over the place, last month you said news is forth coming/ buyout, looking for shares it seems, another garbage troll that makes it sound like he knows whats going on, TO THE TROLL BIN YOU GO!
Comment by Ecrevissecon on Dec 30, 2021 3:49pm
SunnyDaze, Thanks for your reply.  You can call me whatever you want but I adapt my analysis of CUU based on its actions and press releases.  I have no need to buy more shares since I filled my entire bag in the Spring of 2020 with 6- and 10-cent ones, but I am overtly tired of waiting for a "dollar-land" that was supposed to come soon! My last post was on October 22nd.  ...more  
Comment by SunnyDaze68 on Dec 30, 2021 4:11pm
you actually think Elmer/CF will give you any hint about any monetization, it will just happen, wake up buddy, hey what happened to the LAW SUIT that you were going to send to Elmer and Copper Fox, i didnt hear anything of it, your sure seemed adamant that you and "your shareholders" were goin after them. LAUGH MY A$$$$ OFF with you trolls
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Comment by SunnyDaze68 on Dec 30, 2021 2:48pm
HEY Troll how is the lawsuit that you and your partners where going to send over to Elmer and CopperFox, i remeber last year when you were whinning like a baby that you were going to sell all your shares and go afyer the company, LOL, I GUESS YOU CHANGED YOU MIND, HAHAHAHAH
Comment by MoneyK on Dec 30, 2021 5:07pm
Keep in mind that the very conservative PEA is now providing an after-tax IRR of 13%.  QB2 was sanctionned at 16% (with copper at $3.25) and there's still plenty of room left to reach a similar IRR.  Teck also has a massive CDN tax credit that can bump that IRR instantly. Ernesto has only been protecting his investment/ownership for the last decade.  Did his ownership ...more  
Comment by SunnyDaze68 on Dec 30, 2021 8:59pm
Great post, these trolls are so obvious especially this guy who is all over the place and still cant answer my question about his LAW SUIT that he told us he and his shareholders have against Elmer and CF, makes me laugh this TROLL!
Comment by MoneyK on Dec 30, 2021 9:04pm
Didnt hear him voice his concerns at the last AGM. MoneyK
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