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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Ceapro Inc V.CZO

Ceapro Inc. is a Canada-based biotechnology company. The Company is involved in the development of extraction technology and the application of this technology to the production of extracts and active ingredients from oats and other renewable plant resources. Its primary business activities relate to the development and commercialization of natural products for personal care, cosmetic, human... see more

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Ceapro Inc > What are we to make of this?
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Comment by boazklinghorn on Oct 03, 2023 9:52am
Never good news when your one customer becomes a competitor.  
Comment by boazklinghorn on Oct 03, 2023 10:09am
This could explain the giant revenue hole.
Comment by Ciao on Oct 03, 2023 10:18am
This would however mean that AVEENO products will now use SYMRISE's SymCalmin. And we thought CEAPRO had the better mousetrap by far; SYMRISE's claim: "First organic product on the market with highly concentrated content of avenanthramides"
Comment by Ciao on Oct 03, 2023 10:11am
It makes sense now. Do the pieces fit the puzzle? This did not just happen overnight. SYMRISE is doing what CEAPRO could not do, local source (German oat input) and build a plant in Germany. So perhaps CEAPRO could not compete with SYMRISE's  plan and abandoned their plan for a plant (PGX and ...) in Europe (it was rumoured to be in Germany). SYMRISE gives CEAPRO a token min order ...more  
Comment by PBaelishh on Oct 03, 2023 10:17am
Gents, can you please provide a link to this news?  I cannot seem to find it anywhere. If this is true, material disclosure indeed... personal liability risk now for the CeO and the Bored. ...and yes, 'e'... even autocorrect knows Gagnon is small.
Comment by boazklinghorn on Oct 03, 2023 10:22am
https://www.symrise.com/newsroom/article/symrise-introduces-cosmetic-ingredient-from-oats-symcalminR-avena-soothes-sensitive-skin/
Comment by Ciao on Oct 03, 2023 1:39pm
Looks like a tweak to SymCalmin which started in 2005, now a higher concentration of AV and they call it SymCalmin Avena https://www.cosmeticsdesign.com/Article/2005/12/15/Symrise-unveils-anti-irritant-active-ingredient
Comment by lscfa on Oct 03, 2023 2:10pm
Looks like a switch from synthetic AVN to organic AVN.    Wasn't CZO selling natural AVN to Symrise?
Comment by prophetoffactz on Oct 03, 2023 2:45pm
That's my concern. I believe CZO's claim to fame was believed to be the only producer of natural avenanthramide at scale in the world. This was important for companies that want to promote that they are natural products. Gilles also noted superior bioactive performace vs. synthetic product tested. It looks to me like Symrise now has a plant in Germany to produce natural avenanthramide from ...more  
Comment by lscfa on Oct 03, 2023 3:16pm
Symrise may have identified a niche demand for organic AVN and since CZO does not do organic AVN, Symrise had to produce the product itself. 
Comment by lscfa on Oct 03, 2023 10:49am
Ceapro's sales to Germany to tank? Ceapro to make SymCalmin for US market?
Comment by lscfa on Oct 03, 2023 11:48am
Might be a poorly written NR. Symrise may have been trying to convey that it has a green version of SymCalmin now available..... https://www.ulprospector.com/en/eu/PersonalCare/Detail/3029/5929093/SymCalmin-green
Comment by lscfa on Oct 03, 2023 11:53am
SymCalmin® green – Intelligent itch reducer INCI: Butylene Glycol, Pentylene Glycol, Hydroxyphenyl Propamidobenzoic Acid Solution of an oat-inspired avenanthramide derivative, Dihydroavenanthramide D, a neuro-soothing agent that helps breaking prolonged itch-scratch cycle Composed of 100% bio-based solvent (natural origin content of 94%) Immediately relieves itchy ...more  
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