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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum HPQ Silicon Inc V.HPQ

Alternate Symbol(s):  HPQFF

HPQ Silicon Inc. (HPQ) is a Canada-based technology company specializing in green engineering of silica and silicon-based materials. The Company is engaged in developing, with the support of technology partners PyroGenesis Canada Inc. (PyroGenesis) and Novacium SAS, new green processes to make the critical materials needed to reach net zero emissions. Its activities are centered around the... see more

TSXV:HPQ - Post Discussion

HPQ Silicon Inc > What to do, What to do!
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Post by Aarman4 on Dec 01, 2020 1:31pm

What to do, What to do!

Well, at this very time that I am typing HPQ Silicon sits at 0.74, an amazing jump of almost 40% today alone.


Being a (very) long term investor, I have very mixed feelings.

What should I make of this? What should I do about this?

Well, first and foremost, I have been buying shares in HPQ Silicon on and off for the last several months, feeling that they had a recent floor of about 0.50/share. It was November 30th yesterday, and December 1st today, so what has changed?

The company, along with it's CEO have been speaking about December being the big month for validation for quite some time. News came out early both fortifying those statements, as well as showing that HPQ might actually be ahead of schedule on things, which should produce optimism. The share prices stayed firm in and around 0.50/share. Pyrogenesis(the company which is entwined with HPQ silicon and HPQ nano by ownership, and agreements and intellectual property sharing) has recently moved up to the TSX away from the venture. That is sure to attract eyes to Pyrogenesis, which secondarily should also attract eyes to HPQ Silicon. However, since the uplisting of Pyrogenesis, thePYR shares have had small boosts, but many would argue that it has more to do with their actual business dealings regarding torch sales.

So what gives? Why the rise in HPQ Nano so far?

We still have no meaningful revenue/profit, and won't for the near future, so it must be something else.

I would predict(very likely wrongly) that we have any 1 of 3 potential scenarios going on here, and I will tell you what I will be doing in each scenario. (Yes, I know EV and Battery stocks are volatile everywhere right now, and thumbs up if we have the attention that puts us with them, but I just don't believe we are that recognized yet)

Scenario 1:
Short sellers getting out of the game prior to the upcoming news HPQ Silicon is expected to release, which may also reveal their customer's name. This is causing a drive upwards in share price.

Scenario 2:
Institutional/BIG investor buy-in is taking place. Somebody, somewhere, with a lot of clout, is buying in today all at once, driving the share price upwards. This could be in anticipation of upcoming news, or possibly through association or just bullish sentiment.

Scenario 3:
An increase in buyers and decrease in sellers taking place below 0.74(still there at this point), driven by the expected news that will validate HPQ Silicon is the "next shopify" of Canadian stocks.


Now, I definitely believe it is scenario 3, but in all honesty, to this long investor, it really doesn't matter which scenario it is, or even if it is a scenario I haven't thought of. In the end, HPQ Silicon is in the same position today as it was yesterday, despite the share price changes. What is it worth? We're at the upper end of my current buying comfort level, as I am looking forward still at least 24 months from now to buy against.

I am going to HOLD. I have a feeling that this price boost has been a major buy-in based upon hopes that an announcement will overcome the hurdels of showing real earnings growth. I am not going to say the company is overvalued, quite the contrary actually.

I will HOLD, and I feel, in December, there will be another chance to buy more in the sub 0.60 range when the reality that we have an AMAZING company, that still isn't showing regular, growing earnings to the world takes hold.


Now, if I was a "stock trader" as opposed to a "long investor", I would be selling right this moment, and then buying in after the News Release which I am excited about, but I also do not believe will have a large enough material impact on the current, and forseeable earnings numbers. I would be prepared to buy back in again in a few weeks to a month.

So as a LONG investor, I HOLD, I have some cash sitting at wait, and maybe none of my other holdings will demand it so soon, in which case I will definitely buy more below 0.60.

Sorry for the ramble,
Cheers to all!
Comment by thesabbathlife on Dec 01, 2020 1:34pm
You forgot buy. BUY BUY BUY! Anything sub $10
Comment by thesabbathlife on Dec 01, 2020 1:35pm
Conservatively, $100/sp by this time 2021. New investors read my post history.
Comment by developbc on Dec 01, 2020 1:41pm
I would hunt you down sabbath and take you on vip shopping trip if that occurs within 12 months...seriously written in stone :)   Long and strong HPQ!
Comment by j3573r on Dec 01, 2020 1:53pm
Just sayin' but this ... "kind of" speaks to your price expectation developBC :) Long and strong HPQ and PYR
Comment by developbc on Dec 01, 2020 1:57pm
Guilty as charged...lol. I generally don't post share price projections but had to let sabbath know if his prophecy comes true I will seriously hunt him down.   Long and strong HPQ!!
Comment by thesabbathlife on Dec 02, 2020 12:42am
I remember I saw this and had to dig through your awesome posts to make sure you know it's out there now haha. And as for our bets, let's start with the coffee I owe you first. We are going to do great things for this world Develop!!! We got next!!! This is just engine testing before take off =P wait until we send samples to large auto manufacturers this month!!!
Comment by Aarman4 on Dec 01, 2020 1:43pm
LOL, I do agree that long term this is a great deal, but I feel over the next few weeks, there will be a MAJOR buying opportunity again. But like I said, I am likely VERY poor at the short term price projections.  Long term, definitely $100 would be nice, I am looking forward to $4.50 by 2022, anything above that I will be quite happy. Once we show a year of constant revenue and earnings ...more  
Comment by yf4l8888 on Dec 01, 2020 1:47pm
I agree Aarman, but I always advocate you do what's best for your investment position.  I'm still holding a relatively large position (well large in my books at least!) of my portfolio in HPQ and PYR for loooong term, however, decided to sell off a portion of HPQ this morning to average down on other areas of my portfolio. Everyone's investment horizon and strategy is different ...more  
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Comment by dougkimbrough on Dec 01, 2020 1:44pm
        You definitely do not want to sell Arm. It's not going down it's December don't let the big boys make the REAL money without you. 
Comment by developbc on Dec 01, 2020 1:48pm
Thanks for your posts dougkimbrough....you are welcome addition here.  We love how you handle the toxic bashers as well.  Long and strong HPQ!!
Comment by developbc on Dec 01, 2020 1:50pm
Totally agree..the only reason I'm selling is either the bank about to foreclose on my home or need emergency money to pay for life threatening illness otherwise with the extreme confidence of both CEOs....this is a once in a lifetime investment unicorn!!!
Comment by JetsFanYEG on Dec 02, 2020 1:48am
My guess is scenario 4: PYR buys up a ton of shares on the open market to increase stake in HPQ ahead of samples being produced.