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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum HPQ Silicon Inc V.HPQ

Alternate Symbol(s):  HPQFF

HPQ Silicon Inc. (HPQ) is a Canada-based technology company specializing in green engineering of silica and silicon-based materials. The Company is engaged in developing, with the support of technology partners PyroGenesis Canada Inc. (PyroGenesis) and Novacium SAS, new green processes to make the critical materials needed to reach net zero emissions. Its activities are centered around the... see more

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HPQ Silicon Inc > Updated Due diligence
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Post by Renaissance on Jan 22, 2021 9:59am

Updated Due diligence

Here is a table of contents of what has been released by HPQ over the last months. If you want to use it in chronological order, you need to start by the bottom of the list.

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News release

English

HPQ GEN 1 NANO SILICON REACTOR EXCEEDS EXPECTATIONS, PRODUCES SUB 100 nm SPHERICAL NANOPOWDERS & NANOWIRES

LOW-COST MANUFACTURING OF NANO SILICON MATERIALS

HPQ-PR-NSiR-UPDATE-Ver_CL7.pdf (hpqsilicon.com)

Francais

LE REACTEUR DE SILICIUM NANO GEN1 DEPASSE LES ATTENTES EN PRODUISANT DES NANOPOUDRES SPHERIQUES ET DES NANOFILS DE MOINS DE 100 nm

FABRICATION FAIBLE COT DE NANO MATRIAUX DE SILICIUM

HPQ-COMMUNIQUE-RSiN-MISE-A-JOUR-Ver_CL4.pdf (hpqsilicon.com)

Video interview

HPQ Gen1 Nano Silicon Reactor Exceeds Expectations, Produces Sub 100 Nm Spherical Nanopowders & Nanowires

https://youtu.be/9wTKehUzYMk

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News release

English

HPQ FILES PROVISIONAL PATENT APPLICATION FOR SILICON BYPRODUCT CREATED BY PUREVAPTM QRR AS ANODE MATERIAL FOR LITHIUM-ION BATTERIES

HPQ_INRS_PATENT-DEC_29_2002_Ver_CL3.pdf (hpqsilicon.com)

Francais

HPQ – DEPOSE UNE DEMANDE DE BREVET PROVISOIRE POUR L’UTILISATION DE SOUS-PRODUITS SILICIUM RRQ PUREVAPTM COMME MATERIAU D’ANODE POUR BATTERIES LITHIUM-ION

HPQ_INRS_BREVET-DEC_29_2002_Ver_CL3.pdf (hpqsilicon.com)

Video interview

HPQ - Beyond The Press Release – Dec 29 2020

HPQ - Beyond The Press Release - 12292020 - YouTube

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News release

English

HPQ NANO REACHES MAJOR MILESTONES WITH GEN 1 NANO SILICON REACTOR OPERATIONAL

HPQ-PR-NANO-REACTOR-START-Ver_CL3.pdf (hpqsilicon.com)

Francais

HPQ NANO FRANCHIT UNE ETAPE SIGNIFICATIVE AVEC LA MISE EN SERVICE DU REACTEUR DE SILICIUM NANO GEN1

HPQ-CP-NANO-REACTEUR-Ver_2.pdf (hpqsilicon.com)

Video interview

HPQ Discusses Major Milestone With Gen 1 Nano Silicon Reactor Operational

HPQ Discusses Major Milestone With Gen 1 Nano Silicon Reactor Operational - YouTube

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HPQ Silicon Resources Presentation at Alpha Bronze Virtual Town Hall | December 9th, 2020

HPQ Silicon Resources Presentation at Alpha Bronze Virtual Town Hall | December 9th, 2020 | HPQ Silicon


New corporate presentation
HPQ Silicon Resources, Inc. Corporate Presentation (Dec 2020) | HPQ Silicon

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News release

English

HPQ PARTNER APOLLON SOLAR DELIVERS FIRST BATCH OF CARBON COATED NANO SILICON POWDERS TO INRS FOR EVALUATION

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/HPQ-NOV-19-PR-APOLLON-NANO-ENCOATED-SI-Ver_FINAL.pdf

Francais

APOLLON SOLAR, PARTENAIRE DE HPQ, LIVRE L’INRS UN PREMIER LOT DE NANOPOUDRES DE SILICIUM ENROBE DE CARBONE

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/HPQ-CP-APOLLON-ENROBAGE-NANO-Ver_FINAL_2.pdf

Video interview

HPQ Silicon Discusses The Importance Of First Batch Of Carbon Coated Nano Silicon Powders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iWmz5edjL4&feature=youtu.be

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News release

English

HPQ NANO ON TRACK TO START OF GEN1 REACTOR IN DECEMBER PROCESS & MECHANICAL ENGINEERING PHASES COMPLETED

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/HPQ-NANO-PUREVAP-NSiR-MILESTONES-NOV-5-2020-FINAL-VER.pdf

Francais

MISE EN SERVICE EN DECEMBRE DU REACTEUR GEN1 DE HPQ NANO TRAVAUX D’INGENIERIE DES PROCEDES ET MECANIQUES COMPLETES

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/HPQ-COMMUNIQUE-DU-5-NOV-2020-VERS_FINAL.pdf

Video interview

HPQ Silicon On Track To Fill Auto Manufacturer Order For Silicon Plus Go After Other Markets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KajFyR2jgVs&feature=youtu.be

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News release

English

HPQ NANO RECEIVES FIRST ORDER FOR SPHERICAL NANO SILICON MATERIAL FROM MAJOR AUTOMOBILE MANUFACTURER

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/HPQ-HPQ-NANO-FIRST-ORDER-OCT-22-2020-VER_CL2.pdf

Francais

HPQ NANO RECOIT SA PREMIERE COMMANDE POUR DES NANO POUDRES SPHERIQUES DE SILICIUM D’UN GRAND CONSTRUCTEUR AUTOMOBILE

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/HPQ-COMMUNIQUE-22-OCT-2020-VERS_2.pdf

Video interview

HPQ NANO Receives First Order for Spherical Nano Silicon Material from Major Automobile Manufacturer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV1RN5HuZs4&feature=youtu.be

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News release

English

HPQ PROPRIETARY NANO SILICON MANUFACTURING PROCESS TO INCORPORATE FIRST EVER ONE STEP CAPABILITY OF CARBON COATING NANO SILICON MATERIAL AS IT IS PRODUCED

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/HPQ-PR-NANO-ENCOATING-Ver_FINAL.pdf

Francais

LE PROCESSUS DE FABRICATION DE NANO SILICIUM DE HPQ VA INTEGRER UNE CAPACITE D’ENROBAGE CARBONE DES NANO MATERIAUX EN SILICIUM LORS DE SA FABRICATION

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/HPQ-COMMUNIQUE-ENROBAGE-le-14-octobre-2020-VERS_FIN.pdf

Video interview

HPQ Is Able To Deliver The Carbon Coated Silicon Musk, Tesla And Electric Battery Makers Are Seeking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0-YQG78B9g&feature=youtu.be

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News release

English

HPQ NANO RECEIVES REQUEST FOR SPHERICAL NANO SILICON MATERIAL FROM MAJOR AUTOMOBILE MANUFACTURER; FIRST PRE-ORDER EXPECTED SOON

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/HPQ-HPQ-NANO-PRE-ORDER-SEPT-30-2020-FINAL.pdf

Francais

HPQ NANO REOIT UNE DEMANDE D’UN GRAND CONSTRUCTEUR AUTOMOBILE POUR DES NANO POUDRES SPHRIQUES DE SILICIUM : PREMIRE PRCOMMANDE ATTENDU BIENTT

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/HPQ-COMMUNIQUE-du-30-SEPT-2020-FINAL.pdf

Video interview

HPQ Silicon Receives Request For Nano Silicon From Undisclosed Auto Manufacturer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M73Cwfcby9g

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Video interview

HPQ SILICON APPLAUDS ELON MUSK AND TESLA USE OF SILICON TO REVOLUTIONIZE ELECTRIC VEHICLE BATTERIES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cijufiisPL4&feature=youtu.be

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News release

English

HPQ AND APOLLON SOLAR EXTEND AGREEMENT TO WORK ON POROUS SILICON FOR BATTERIES AND EXPAND COLLABORATION TO INCLUDE HYDROGEN PRODUCTION

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/HPQ-APOLLON-RELEASE-SEPT-17-2020-CLEAN-FINAL.pdf

Francais

HPQ ET APOLLON SOLAR CONTINUENT LEURS TRAVAUX SUR LE SILICIUM POREUX POUR BATTERIES TOUT EN ELARGISSANT LEUR COLLABORATION A LA FABRICATION D’HYDROGENE

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/HPQ-APOLLON-COMMUNIQUE-du-17-SEPT-2020-Version-FINAL.pdf

Video interview

HPQ Development Agreement With Apollon Solar Expands Into Producing Hydrogen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nfj5NB_6L0&feature=youtu.be

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News release

English

PYROGENESIS PARTICIPATES IN HPQ NON-BROKERED PRIVATE PLACEMENT FINANCING

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/HPQ-SEPTEMBER-1-PR-HPQ-PP-FINAL-VERS.pdf

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News release

English

HPQ SILICON AND PYROGENESIS SIGN A NANO SILICON DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO PURSUE STRONG INDUSTRY INTEREST GENERATED BY PUREVAP (TM) NANO SILICON REACTOR

https://money.tmx.com/en/quote/HPQ/news/8659186102075776

Francais

GRACE A L’INTERET GRANDISSANT DE L’INDUSTRIE POUR LE REACTEUR DE NANO SILICIUM PUREVAP (TM), HPQ ET PYROGENESIS SONT FIER D’ANNONCER LA SIGNATURE D’UNE ENTENTE POUR DEVELOPPER LA FABRICATION DE MATERIAUX NANOMETRIQUES DE SILICIUM

https://web.tmxmoney.com/article.php?newsid=5347605557510265&qm_symbol=HPQ

Video interview

HPQ Silicon Development Agreement With PyroGenesis Hints At Something Big Coming For Battery Market

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EvrWEBOT0U&feature=youtu.be

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AGM presentation

Investor Deck Presentation Session — June 2020 | HPQ Silicon AGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQd-eoRD5M&t=0s

Question & Answer Session — June 2020 | HPQ Silicon AGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlkcRcyedBs&t=0s

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News release

HPQ SILICON WELL-FUNDED TO ACCELERATE LEADING NANO SILICON INITIATIVES FOR BATTERIES AND OTHER RENEWABLE ENERGY APPLICATIONS FOR 2020 AND BEYOND

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/HPQ-PR-AUG-12-2020-FINAL.pdf

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News release

English

HPQ SILICON ENTERS INTO CONFIDENTIAL TECHNICAL DISCUSSIONS WITH AN ADVANCED MATERIAL DEVELOPER REGARDING ENERGY STORAGE APPLICATIONS

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/HPQ-JUNE-11-NDA-PR-FINAL.pdf

Francais

HPQ SILICIUM ENTAME DES DISCUSSIONS TECHNIQUES CONFIDENTIELLES AVEC UN DEVELOPPEUR DE MATERIAUX DE POINTE POUR LES APPLICATIONS DE STOCKAGE D’ENERGIE

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/HPQ-CP-11-Juin-AND-FINAL.pdf

Video interview

HPQ Silicon Signs 2nd NDA For Its Silicon To Be Used In Energy Storage Application

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiJGwcqvOKY

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News release

PYROGENESIS INCREASES STAKE IN HPQ SILICON

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/HPQ-MAY-26-PR-DEBT-FOR-SHARES-VERS_1.pdf

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News release

English

SILICON MATERIAL PRODUCED WITH GEN2 PUREVAP (TM) OFFERS PROMISING POTENTIAL TO REPLACE GRAPHITE IN LITHIUM-ION BATTERIES

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/HPQ-PR-PUREVAP-Battery-Material-VERS_CL7.pdf

Francais

MATERIAU SILICIUM PRODUIT PAR LE GEN2 PUREVAP (TM) OFFRE UN POTENTIEL PROMETTEUR DE REMPLACEMENT DU GRAPHITE DANS LES BATTERIES LITHIUM-ION

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/HPQ-CP-PUREVAP-MATERIAUX-BATTERIES-VERS_CL10.pdf

Video interview

HPQ Silicon Launches Missile At Graphite With Potential To Replace Graphite In Lithium-Ion Batteries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxjjCsxx8EY

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News release

English

WORK ON PUREVAP (TM) SILICON METAL NANO REACTOR CONTINUES AS HPQ PROVIDES UPDATE ON COVID-19 OUTBREAK IMPACT

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/HPQ-PR-Covid-Update-MARCH-30-FINAL.pdf

Francais

LES TRAVAUX SUR LE NANO REACTEUR DE SILICIUM METAL PUREVAP (TM) SE POURSUIVENT HPQ FOURNIT UNE MISE A JOUR SUR L’IMPACT DE L’EPIDEMIE COVID-19

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/HPQ-CP-Covid-MISE-A-JOUR-30-mars-FINAL.pdf

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Video interview

BEYOND THE DECK: HPQ Silicon Shares Its PowerPoint Presentation With Investors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15PMZpENBoE&t=0s

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News release

English

DEVELOPING NEW PUREVAP (TM) SILICON METAL NANO REACTOR FOR LOW-COST MANUFACTURING OF SPHERICAL SILICON METAL NANOPOWDERS & NANOWIRES FOR NEXT GENERATION Li-ION BATTERIES

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/HPQ-SINR-PUREVAP-RELEASE-FEBRUARY-11-2020-FINAL-VERS-1.pdf

Francais

DEVELOPPEMENT D’UN NANO REACTEUR DE SILICIUM METAL PUREVAP (TM) PERMETTANT UNE FABRICATION A FAIBLE COUT DE NANO-POUDRES SPHERIQUES ET DE NANOFILS DE SILICIUM METAL ESSENTIEL AUX PROCHAINES GENERATIONS DE BATTERIES LITHIUM-ION

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/HPQ-CP-NRSI-PUREVAP-11-FEVRIER-2020-FINAL-VERS-1.pdf

Video interview

HPQ Game Changing Silicon Process For Lithium-Ion Battery Market Is Just Months Away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsmcS0ksjiA

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News release

English

HPQ AND APOLLON SOLAR STRENGTHEN COLLABORATION TO FOCUS ON POROUS SILICON FOR LITHIUM-ION BATTERY MARKET

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/HPQ-PR-APOLLON-BATTERIES-JANUARY-27-2020_FINAL_VER.pdf

Francais

HPQ ET APOLLON SOLAR CONSOLIDENT LEUR COLLABORATION DANS LE CRENEAU DU SILICIUM POREUX POUR BATTERIES LITHIUM-ION

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/HPQ-CP-APOLLON-BATTERIES-27-JANVIER-2020_VER_FINAL.pdf

Video interview

HPQ Porous Silicon Attracts Lithium-Ion Battery Manufacturer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnlNImYzpHQ

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News release

English

GEN2 PUREVAP (TM) PROOF OF CONCEPT TEST DEMONSTRATES CAPACITY TO PRODUCE SPHERICAL NANO POWDERS FROM SILICON METAL FOR THE LITHIUM-ION BATTERY MARKET

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/HPQ-PR-PYRO-NANO-JANUARY_15_2020_FINAL.pdf

Francais

UN TEST DE VALIDATION FAIT AVEC LE GEN2 PUREVAP (TM) DEMONTRE UNE CAPACITE DE PRODUIRE DES NANO-POUDRES SPHERIQUES POUR LES BATTERIES LITHIUM-ION A PARTIR DE SILICIUM METAL

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/HPQ-CP-PYRO-NANO-25-JANVIER-2020_FINAL.pdf

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News release

English

HPQ OUTLINES KEY MILESTONES DRIVING THE COMPANY TOWARDS SUPPLYING SILICON, SILICON POWDERS AND SILICON WAFERS FOR LITHIUM-ION BATTERY MARKET IN 2020

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/HPQ-CORPORATE-UPDATE-December_09_2019_VER_CL_FINAL.pdf

Video interview

HPQ On The Verge Of Supplying Silicon To Lithium-Ion Battery Market In 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xrMXF35ohU&t=0s

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News release

English

HPQ SILICON AND PYROGENESIS ACTIVELY EVALUATING JOINT VENTURE TO MANUFACTURE NANOSCALE STRUCTURE SILICON POWDERS FOR NEXT GENERATION Li-ion BATTERIES

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/HPQ-PR-PYRO-November_25_2019_VER_FINAL.pdf

Francais

HPQ ET PYROGENESIS EVALUENT ACTIVEMENT LA CREATION D’UNE COENTREPRISE POUR LA FABRICATION DE POUDRE DE SILICIUM DE STRUCTURE NANOMETRIQUE POUR LES BATTERIES LI-ion SI DE PROCHAINES GENERATIONS

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/HPQ-PYRO_COMMUNIQUE_25_Nov_2019_VER_FINAL.pdf

Video interview

HPQ Silicon and PyroGenesis Actively Evaluating JV to Manufacture Nanoscale Structure Silicon Powder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg1pau1vFMY&t=0s

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News release

English

HPQ SILICON ENTERS INTO DISCUSSIONS WITH Li-ion BATTERY MANUFACTURER

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/HPQ-BATTERY-NDA-November_07_2019_FINAL-VERS.pdf

Francais

HPQ SILICIUM ENGAGE DES DISCUSSIONS AVEC UN FABRICANT DE BATTERIES Li-ion

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/HPQ-Communique%CC%81-NDA-7-Novembre-2019-FINAL.pdf

Video interview

HPQ Enters Into Discussions With Li-ion Battery Manufacturer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyWfzuSkQMc

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News release

English

HPQ PARTNERS WITH PROFESSOR LIONEL ROU (INRS) TO EVALUATE THE POTENTIAL OF PUREVAP (TM) SILICON FOR LI-ION BATTERIES

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/HPQ-INRS-OCTOBRE-31-2019-RELEASE-FINAL-ENG.pdf

Francais

HPQ COLLABORE AVEC LE PROFESSEUR LIONEL ROUE (INRS) POUR EVALUER LE POTENTIEL DU SILICIUM PUREVAP (TM) POUR LES BATTERIES Li-ion

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/HPQ-INRS-Communique%CC%81-31-OCTOBRE-2019-VERS-FINAL.pdf

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News release

English

HPQ AND APOLLON ASSESSING MANUFACTURING POROUS SILICON WAFERS FOR LI-ION BATTERIES

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/HPQ-APOLLON-Release-September-25-2019-FINAL.pdf

Francais

HPQ ET APOLLON SOLAR COLLABORE SUR UN PROCEDE DE FABRICATION DE PLAQUETTES DE SILICIUM POREUX POUR LES BATTERIES AU LITHIUM

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/HPQ-APOLLON-Communique%CC%81-25-Septembre-2019-FINAL_FR.pdf

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News release

English

HPQ SILICON FILES SECOND PROVISIONAL PATENT APPLICATION

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/HPQ-SEPT-4-NEW-PUREVAP-IP-FINAL.pdf

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News release

English

HPQ SILICON PUREVAP TM: IMPACTING THE GLOBAL SILICON, SOLAR AND BATTERY INDUSTRIES

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/HPQ-PR-UPDATE-AUG-19-2019-Ver_FINAL.pdf

Video interview

HPQ Silicon Ready To Start Commercializing Revolutionary Silicon Process

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzMPOdllHFQ

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News release

English

HPQ SECURES $ 5,250,000 IN FINANCING; THE PUREVAP (TM) PROCESS IS THE GREEN SOLUTION FOR THE SOLAR INDUSTRY

https://hpqsilicon.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/HPQ-PR-Creativite%CC%81-Quebec-Final-August-13-2018.pdf

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News release

English

HPQ Silicon Acquires PUREVAP (TM) Intellectual Property from PyroGenesis and Orders 200 Metric Ton Per Year Solar Grade Silicon Metal Pilot Plant

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2016/08/02/1438763/0/en/HPQ-Silicon-Acquires-PUREVAP-TM-Intellectual-Property-from-PyroGenesis-and-Orders-200-Metric-Ton-Per-Year-Solar-Grade-Silicon-Metal-Pilot-Plant.html

Video interview

HPQ Silicon Goes Beyond The Press Release

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOnuuwfQkVw

Comment by Renaissance on Jan 25, 2021 10:08am
Comment by Renaissance on Jan 27, 2021 9:37am
Comment by Gordinno on Jan 27, 2021 9:56am
Thats all fine and dandy,The market knows all this but with no orders announced theres  is zero support
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