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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum New Found Gold Corp V.NFG

Alternate Symbol(s):  NFGC

New Found Gold Corp. is a Canada-based mineral exploration company. The Company is engaged in the acquisition, exploration, and evaluation of resource properties with a focus on gold properties located in Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. The Company holds a 100% interest in the Queensway Project, which comprises an approximately 1,662 square kilometers area, located about 15 kilometers (km... see more

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Post by AlwaysLong683 on Oct 20, 2021 9:57am

Bitcoin Mania

Not sure how Bitcoin is any different than fiat currency (e.g. the U.S. Dollar) except that it apparently takes a lot of electricity to produce them.

I bring Bitcoin up on this BB as many consider it a viable replacement to goverment-controlled currencies like the U.S. dollar (much like fans of gold believe it is the best alternative). Gold is something you can see, touch, and manufacture into coins or perhaps link it to a currency (either physcial paper or digital) equivalent to a given amount of gold stored in ultra-secure locations (e.g. Fort Knox).

Here's an explanation of how / why the U.S. went off the gold standard re. the U.S. dollar (from an article entitled "Why did the U.S. abandon the Gold Standard?" on mentalfloss.com):

Why did the U.S. abandon the gold standard?

To help combat the Great Depression.

Faced with mounting unemployment and spiraling deflation in the early 1930s, the U.S. government found it could do little to stimulate the economy. To deter people from cashing in deposits and depleting the gold supply, the U.S. and other governments had to keep interest rates high, but that made it too expensive for people and businesses to borrow. So in 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt cut the dollar’s ties with gold, allowing the government to pump money into the economy and lower interest rates. “Most economists now agree 90 percent of the reason why the U.S. got out of the Great Depression was the break with gold,” said Liaquat Ahamed, author of the book Lords of Finance.

The U.S. continued to allow foreign governments to exchange dollars for gold until 1971, when President Richard Nixon abruptly ended the practice to stop dollar-flush foreigners from sapping U.S. gold reserves.


Nonetheless, the current Bitcoin mania continues as the first Bitcoin U.S.-based ETF was listed with great interest as outlined in the article below which appeared in today's National Post.

Here are a few exerpts from the article:


LISTING OF BITCOIN-LINKED ETF A TURNING POINT
 
National Post
 
20 Oct 2021
 
Vildana hajric

 
The first Bitcoin-linked exchange-traded fund listed in the U.S. debuted as the second most heavily-traded fund on record in a watershed moment for the crypto industry.

The Proshares Bitcoin Strategy ETF — trading under the ticker BITO — rose about 4.9 percent to US$41.94.

More than 24 million shares changed hands Tuesday, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Because of the way the fund settles trades, net flows into or out of the product probably won’t be known until overnight on Wednesday...........

Meanwhile, Bitcoin made a run at its record high of just under US$65,000........

A Bitcoin ETF has been long-awaited by both the crypto community and investors on Wall Street, many of whom have argued for years that approval by regulators would open up digital currencies to more mainstream investors. The Proshares fund is based on futures contracts and was filed under mutual fund rules that SEC chairman Gary Gensler has said provide “significant investor protections.”........


I'm not sure how investors are valuing Bitcoin, but it's hard to imagine their worth $65,000 U.S. apiece. Plus, the amount of electricity needed to produce Bitcion is curious at a time when many people, investors, and corporations alike are frowning on fossil fuels such as natural gas and want them replaced with renewable sources of energy like wind, solar, hydropower, geothermal, biomass, etc. Does society want electricity to power Bitcoin or use it to the fuel the heating and air conditioning of homes / buildings, electric vehicles, etc. ?

Hard to make sense of it all and I am skeptical about the future of Bitcoin or any of the other digital currencies in existence today, though I suspect some form of "digital currency" will replace paper currency and coins one day.

Comment by braindeadoldguy on Oct 20, 2021 10:04am
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Comment by Bigshot123 on Oct 20, 2021 10:40am
Bigshot says that when the inevitable crash of the stock, bond and real estate markets happens (no one knows exactly when), the Bitcoin bubble will pop and where are you going to go? GOLD Bigshot says it is very very clear.
Comment by Retiredgeo on Oct 20, 2021 10:48am
Fiat currencies are backed by the wealth and power of the economies of the nations that issue them.  Without that wealth and power a fiat currency is just ink on paper such as the Zimbabwian dollar.  What economy is backing up Bitcoin? - None!   Digital currencies are online commodities which some people think have value.  I will stick with gold and silver which are ...more  
Comment by megacopper on Oct 20, 2021 11:29am
  I agree with you guys about paper and digital currencies. Digital currencies are relatively new and I have heard horror stories of investors losing everything due to computer glitches and loss passwords and the entire investment just vanished into cyberspace never to be found. Lol Yes with regards to paper currencies they are backed up by the country itself so there is value backing ...more  
Comment by braindeadoldguy on Oct 20, 2021 11:38am
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Comment by megacopper on Oct 20, 2021 11:40am
  Yes it certainly would get your attention. Lol
Comment by AlwaysLong683 on Oct 20, 2021 3:03pm
If one went to the U.S. Government with $1,000,000 U.S. and asked what they would give you for it, they wouldn't offer you military equipment or an ownership stake in U.S. Government properties like a national park or the land on which the White House sits. They would tell you to use it somewhere else where vendors accept the notion that the paper has value (e.g. retailers, wholesalers ...more  
Comment by Global1966 on Oct 20, 2021 6:38pm
I tend to disagree that fiat currencies are backed by a nation's wealth. It is more about market perception and confidence. Once you lose this you lose the value.
Comment by braindeadoldguy on Oct 20, 2021 7:30pm
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Comment by Global1966 on Oct 20, 2021 9:01pm
The important word is "faith". 
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