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With all the experts on CBC explaining the magnitude of the

[mdjbrown]

slide, not one of them has acknowledged the dozer sitting in the HLP.  Why is that?

Instead they are pointing out rotational shear, overhangs, etc.

There is no reason a dozer should ever be in the HLP, so it is beyond rational thought why these so called experts have not referred to this unusual anomoly.

Before they conclusively offer any expert opinion to the masses, they better understand how this event unfolded.

As HB77 has mentioned, the 5 Ws are critically important before sharing expert opinion on anything, otherwise you are a talking head, which there are far too many of those on the news..

The other question that will eventually come to light, is how they get this $ million dollar plus piece of equipment out of the bowl without causing a secondary slide.

Big decisions ahead.

[nincompoop]

You really think a 100 ton dozer where the load is transferred by very wide, very long tracts is a possible cause of moving 4 million tons of ore. The pad was designed to have dozers leveling and moving ore regularly. That's how it became stepped. The pressure per square inch of track on the dozer on the pad would probably be less than a the pressure exerted by a man walking across it....hang

[HoneyBadger77]

Nincompoop, you really are from the UK aren't you?  Stubborn as h_ell.  Go to the Technical Report and figure it out for yourself.  Yes, that will take a little time and work but come on now...You can do it! Or we can just keep going back and forth like this, annoying all the other board members.  I'd rather not. HB77

[mdjbrown]

nincompoop, have you ever watched a snowmobile start an avalanche taking down several snow  packs with it. FYI, the HPL consists of loose material, not packed as you suggest. HB77 has attached both the Technical Report and HLP specs, so its all there.  Just have to review it.

[nincompoop]

How do you think they spread the ore around the pad...it covers a huge area, the stepped levels are basically...level. This isn't a surface event, this is a very deep seated rotational collapse, they aren't caused by some bloke in a dozer. This a ' tectonic' event...caused probably by multiple factors, regarding mass, stress, volume, moisture, and a multiplicity of other inter

[nincompoop]

If you happen to be walking along a pavement.... that's the proper name for a sidewalk by the way...and an earthquake starts...let me assure you...it wasn't you who started it.

[HoneyBadger77]

Oh my God nincompoop, you're apparently stubborn and lazy!  Not a good combination.  But hey, admittedly you're out of the stock now anyway, so why would you want to go and do some work?  Agreed, why would you if you can get the answers with no effort? So then why are you still here then except to criticize posters?  Oh I know, you're still here to inform all the

[nincompoop]

Hi Honey, well that's an interesting view on things...you say you would shrug and no longer participate in commenting on a company you were no longer involved with, I think we can all agree with that...under normal circumstances...these are NOT normal circumstances. Long term investors have been lied too, decieved, had highly relevent information concealed from them for years, and now are very

[Zibo510]

My unqualified guess is that  A The pad was stacked to high  B The pad was stacked to steep, to severe an              angle top to bottom on the sides. C Settlement of the base.

[nincompoop]

I could go with settlement being some sort of trigger event but nothing regarding just surface movement. Dave Petley does know his stuff regarding the mechanics of rotational collapses, but this does not seem to relate to anything regarding  surface events. 

[mdjbrown]

Nincompoop we will just have to agree to disagree Why is a dozer just resting in a bowl on the surface a third of the way down as it should have rolled several times sitting at the base of the HLP if there was tectonic event as you suggest. This heavy piece of equiment clearly rode the surface to its resting spot and as a result the operator survived. An illustration presented by another poster

[nincompoop]

I doubt in the entire history of dozers has one ever rolled, too wide, the natural inclination will always be to slide, go with the flow... I'm still in mourning on having a bunch of left wing commie morons being elected to be out next UK  government, but apart from that I'll do my best to enjoy the weekend, hope you have a good one.