Join today and have your say! It’s FREE!

Become a member today, It's free!

We will not release or resell your information to third parties without your permission.
Please Try Again
{{ error }}
By providing my email, I consent to receiving investment related electronic messages from Stockhouse.

or

Sign In

Please Try Again
{{ error }}
Password Hint : {{passwordHint}}
Forgot Password?

or

Please Try Again {{ error }}

Send my password

SUCCESS
An email was sent with password retrieval instructions. Please go to the link in the email message to retrieve your password.

Become a member today, It's free!

We will not release or resell your information to third parties without your permission.
Quote  |  Bullboard  |  News  |  Opinion  |  Profile  |  Peers  |  Filings  |  Financials  |  Options  |  Price History  |  Ratios  |  Ownership  |  Insiders  |  Valuation

Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Woulfe Mining Corp WFEMF

Woulfe Mining Corp is a mineral exploration company. It is engaged in the acquisition, exploration and development of mineral properties.

GREY:WFEMF - Post Discussion

Woulfe Mining Corp > DD etc.
View:
Post by clk_vested on Sep 07, 2012 1:22pm

DD etc.

I admit, my hand is a bit weakish, in that I do not like to see my money tied up for two years with no return. To those who got in a month or so ago, the current situation may seem fine. That was my bad judgement. In hindsight, I *could* have earned 5 or 10% on something safe, and then invested in WOF yesterday, and been in the same position I am now. I guess it is the market in general, as I have seen far worse companies do far better, at least intermittently.

As for DD, I have worked for small companies trying to get into bed with larger ones, and know from experience that the process can take years. The political process inside many companies can be completely Byzantine.

The scenario is probably something like this: someone inside IMC thinks the deal with WOF is a good idea and is championing it; some other party is probably opposed; the level of buy-in higher up the chain is critical but nobody wants to make a mistake because their job is potentially on the line if they commit to the wrong direction. The higher-ups will try to push responsibility downwards by insisting on quantity and quality of information that it is the duty of their functionaries to provide. If the functionary provides incorect information, then you have a potential scapegoat down the line if things go wrong, so the functionaries will try their hardest to ensure that their opinions are conservative and correct. Almost none of the people in the process give a rat's behind about Woulfe, shareholders, the bottom line, etc. And so the process may play on for quite some time until an actionable decision is made.

At this point, Woulfe would have approximately 0 influence over the outcome, except to take every opportunity to show they are competent or doing the right thing to allay fears at IMC. However, any announcement Woulfe may make, as we have seen, is irrelevant. It is entirely up to IMC and we actually have no knowledge at all about what IMC is doing, thinking, etc. and while having a secure tungsten supply would seem to make obvious business sense, I am sure that is only one factor (maybe a big one) in about a thousand going into their internal process that ends up with someone putting his neck on the line to sign over tens of millions of dollars. So, am I a little antsy about my money? Yes, I am. Do I blame Woulfe: no, not really -- I think they've been playing a good game, and again, I've seen many companies where directors and officers enrich themselves a lot more than Woulfe's have with even less to show for at, whereas Woulfe still has huge potential to show quite a lot for it.

So, I will continue to have patience for now, but yes, not having the faintest clue what is going on for such a long time is beginning to make me question the wisdom of having as much money tied up in Woulfe as I do.

clk

Comment by StockExpertPro on Sep 07, 2012 1:38pm
Yes we do know what IMC is thinking and doing. IMC is the parent company of Taegutec. South Korean cutting tool supplier Taegutec said it wants to expand its foreign sales quota to 75% by 2015 from the 65% recorded last year. Speaking with journalists Monday at the opening of the company’s second plant in Daegu, South Korea, Jacob Harpaz, president and CEO of Taegutec parent ...more  
Comment by StockExpertPro on Sep 07, 2012 1:47pm
Read the article closely. Speaking with journalists Monday at the opening of the company’s second plant in Daegu, South Korea, Jacob Harpaz, president and CEO of Taegutec parent IMC, declined to discuss the cost of the highly automated, 22,000 square metre expansion but said the facility will help the company meet rising interest in Taegutec products. “It’s ...more  
Comment by monti80 on Sep 07, 2012 2:48pm
This is a very good post stockexpertpro! This is exactly what im saying too. But the truth is that Brian Wesson gave this deal out of the hands too cheap to imc. Management tríed to sold it as a good thing that imc is getting 90% of the tungsten to a reduced price. So in fact that means that imc gets all the tungsten of this mine for lousy 35 Million Dollars. So on woulfe will get 49% of the ...more  
Comment by biznotstock on Sep 07, 2012 5:26pm
Sangdong NPV is about 400 million (https://www.woulfemining.com/i/pdf/news/2012-04-23_NR.pdf) without the drilling results which will obviously follow in the coming years. You would have sold 51% of Sangdong for 100mil? The discount at which we're selling our tungsten can't possibily justify that. If the estimates on the mine life are correct, we will be selling tungsten for a long time ...more  
Comment by StockExpertPro on Sep 07, 2012 6:54pm
Monti80 you should read this post from biznotstockhttps://www.stockhouse.com/Bullboards/MessageDetail.aspx?p=0&m=31502012&l=0&r=0&s=WOF&t=LIST Sangdong NPV is about 400 million (https://www.woulfemining.com/i/pdf/news/2012-04-23_NR.pdf) without the drilling results which will obviously follow in the coming years. You would have sold 51% of Sangdong for 100mil? The discount at ...more  
Comment by StockExpertPro on Sep 07, 2012 6:55pm
Monti80 I agree with some of your post but Woulfe will still make a lot of money and the stock price will rise even if the current deal with IMC remains the same. This current deal works out to 60% of Sangdong tungsten revenues for WOF and 40% for IMC. Yes, the CEO Brian Wesson could of negotiated a better deal for the Sangdong mine long term tungsten supply but upon further research it appears ...more  
The Market Update
{{currentVideo.title}} {{currentVideo.relativeTime}}
< Previous bulletin
Next bulletin >

At the Bell logo
A daily snapshot of everything
from market open to close.

{{currentVideo.companyName}}
{{currentVideo.intervieweeName}}{{currentVideo.intervieweeTitle}}
< Previous
Next >
Dealroom for high-potential pre-IPO opportunities