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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum FormerXBC Inc XEBEQ

Xebec Adsorption Inc designs, engineers, and manufactures products that are used for purification, separation, dehydration, and filtration equipment for gases and compressed air. The company operates in three reportable segments: Systems, Corporate and other, and Support. Its product lines are natural gas dryers for natural gas refueling stations, compressed gas filtration, biogas purification,... see more

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Post by ZouZS3 on Mar 13, 2021 5:08pm

The Problem

The problem with some of you people is that you can't see the bigger picture. You only see SP, revenues, and ratios and your freaking value of your portfolio. Not saying that we shouldn't but this is not the only things you should look at specially when you're invested in a start up growth company. You should look at the whole damn picture. The strategy of the company, the industry as a whole, the work behind the scenes, the big players involved, is way more important at this point. The this is not many can read between the lines. When they say "20% of its revenues will come from its renewable natural gas business in 2021. The remainder of revenues are expected to come from hydrogen generation, recurring 15-year Gas-as-a-Service contracts, the Cleantech Service Network and industrial compressed air and gas products" After announcing reduced guidance due to failures in their RNG business. They are basically saying LOOK at the bigger picture. LOOK at all the opportunities we have. RNG is only 20% of our business. We are a whole lot more than that.
Comment by Ciao on Mar 13, 2021 5:22pm
And the RNG business will essentially be the sale of containerized BGX Biostream units (their size and scalability within a site makes them a niche player) which are standard vs the previous customized units. The uncertainty of project economics (with unforeseen cost overruns) will no longer be present.
Comment by Newtrader1982 on Mar 13, 2021 5:25pm
You can pump all day and all you want but investors are not happy right now. When they are described as being put in the penalty box by analysts they are basically telling you don't expect much for now until they actually prove they can produce the numbers they say they can. It's put up or shut up time for xebec.
Comment by ZouZS3 on Mar 13, 2021 5:34pm
Haha NT, funny you!! Xebec is in the penalty box with a BUY ratings while GRN had wonderful results with maintained ratings. I wonder why? Xebec is in the penalty box for all you scared people who bought at 10$+ or saw your profits go down the drain (including me), they stripped xebec naked just to show you that the business is still intact and that your overreacting
Comment by Newtrader1982 on Mar 13, 2021 5:52pm
I agree with you it's been stripped naked but overreacting I am not so sure about. I think given the circumstances remember this is the 2nd time now they revised the guidance lower that 6 dollars is probably fair value right now. I wouldn't get your hopes up for much more I have lowered my expectations just like xebecs management told me to.
Comment by Renofund on Mar 13, 2021 7:07pm
Greenlane also has a but rating lol.  No penalty box and TD dropped the xbc target.  Your first couple sentences actually make no sense.  
Comment by ZouZS3 on Mar 13, 2021 7:16pm
What I meant is yes they obviously lowered their price targets but maintained a Buy Ratings for XBC but with GRN's beautiful results they only maintained buy ratings and price targets.
Comment by LongoGlueStick on Mar 13, 2021 7:18pm
Greenlane was also down 9% on Friday.  I wonder why?
Comment by ZouZS3 on Mar 13, 2021 7:58pm
One of reason it was down 9% is that Bob McW used to refer to Greenlanes as Xebec's baby cousin and it was alot more attractive for new investors at 0.50 cents back in June than XBC. When they saw Xebec was back at 5, they probably took advantage of that wonderful bargain and saw an opportunity average down if they had bought higher? Afterall GRN went from 50 cents to 2.50 in no time. That' ...more  
Comment by Renofund on Mar 14, 2021 8:10am
  so ... let me get this straight.  You are trying to say XBC maintaining their "buy" rating while having price targets DROPPED is "better" than GRN also maintaining their "buy" rating and having their very recently increased price targets maintained? Do you actually read what you post? LOL. You arent very good at understanding things if THIS is what you ...more  
Comment by Newtrader1982 on Mar 14, 2021 8:30am
he has been so pumped up on this stock there is literally no talking any sense into him at this point. He posted not long ago that he sold everything to salvage what profit he had because TT said he was leaving the board and struggling. Then the stock fell further and TT came back to the board so zou posted that he bought everything back plus more. Then just yesterday he posted that he sold what ...more  
Comment by Francois33 on Mar 14, 2021 9:15am
Agree, also not sure if some have many aliases here... More pumping and they will explose. No need to be a genius here, if you bought at 8.00 $ like me, you just average down a bit (fact). XBC will not disappear tomorrow (fact) in 2-3-5 years from now, I should be very happy (fact). Of corse if you daytrade, you just got caught pants down (fact) shame on you !!!  that's the risk ...more  
Comment by ZouZS3 on Mar 14, 2021 9:57am
Yea right, think what you want NT! I think you are the one in shock over here, not me. Yes l I sold bought back more, and sold a small portion for my down payment. What's your problem with that? I believe in Xebec and if I'm wrong I'll continue to live and learn. Money comes and goes but I trust my knowledge so I won't sell a single stock from here.
Comment by LongoGlueStick on Mar 14, 2021 10:11am
ZouZS3, Maybe the stock market isn't for you if you are this emotional about Xebec. People should be using this as a buying opportunity. TD has a $10 price target on Xebec.  Friday's trading looked like capitulation to me.  9.5 million shares traded.
Comment by ZouZS3 on Mar 14, 2021 10:21am
OK COOL, I'm an emotional person and it's not for me, happy now? Everyone sell Xebec if you want. Have a good day
Comment by SNgu8000 on Mar 14, 2021 1:24pm
Can I chip in ??? What I come up with called : ZOU's INDICATOR     When XBC $11.50 area , ZOU jumpped to ceiling " SELL "  ( I should but ????? I m learning )    When XBC $ 5 , ZOU disappeared ( school ? exam ? meeting psychologist ? .......)                                 ...more  
Comment by Newtrader1982 on Mar 14, 2021 10:28am
I don't have any problem it's your money to do with what you want I am just pointing out that some of your posts make no sense. Based on your timeline of what YOU posted you sold everything for a profit as the stock got hammered. Then a few days later bought it all back plus more your words not mine. Then as the stock got demolished you sold presumably at a loss since you just bought back ...more  
Comment by Zoltar4kingrite on Mar 14, 2021 10:36am
the real problem is the cancellations of two systems,reduced revenues,no profit,add some more losses and ffs please dont sell to a customer who cant afford to pay you!!! now add the resignation of a COO with no replacement ( read someone was pissed off here)...so lets wait til the real(?) numbers come out mar 25th and lets listen to the call...s'/b a real good one..wiping out 600 mm dollar off ...more  
Comment by Newtrader1982 on Mar 14, 2021 12:30pm
Well if you add the revenue back then they were on par to make 70 million the lower end of the revised guidance so that should at least count for something. So if you go with 2021 revenue being 70 million plus 45 million added revenue for acquisitions that's 115 million in 2021 and that's with no growth so I guess 140 is possible but I would rather leave it out for now but say they do 140 ...more  
Comment by Zoltar4kingrite on Mar 14, 2021 1:26pm
plus let's add higher expenses and bad debt ...lack of controls within and accounting changes raises red flag here..and its gonna to be few quarters to see if their acquisitions work out as planned..the bankers are gonna want to know when did these issues start appearing.my thinking next time they ask for cash, the market will want a big haircut.will watch from sidelines..
Comment by Ciao on Mar 13, 2021 5:44pm
Huge volume on Friday so a lot of selling (and buying was done).   The posts here will not influence the markets but may influence some here who have a weaker conviction. However the misinformation should stop and the posts from "sellers" who suddenly show up should be taken with a grain or as entertainment.
Comment by Newtrader1982 on Mar 13, 2021 5:54pm
agreed suddenly people popping up saying they sold who have posted on the board like 2 times. You were never in grain of salt.
Comment by ZouZS3 on Mar 13, 2021 5:57pm
Standard penalties are 2 minutes in length and players serve their penalties in the penalty box. On a 60 minute Hockey game this 3.33% of the game. Looks like it's for a very short period of time to me.
Comment by ZouZS3 on Mar 13, 2021 6:06pm
On 252 trading days a year, 2% is exactly 5 trading days. Which brings us to the Americana Event
Comment by ZouZS3 on Mar 13, 2021 6:08pm
Sorry 3.33% is 8.4 days which brings up to ER
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