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Xebec Adsorption Inc designs, engineers, and manufactures products that are used for purification, separation, dehydration, and filtration equipment for gases and compressed air. The company operates in three reportable segments: Systems, Corporate and other, and Support. Its product lines are natural gas dryers for natural gas refueling stations, compressed gas filtration, biogas purification,... see more

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Post by savyinvestor333 on Dec 12, 2022 1:48pm

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Can a taxpayer claim a capital loss when a stock plummets in value and then is delisted from the Toronto Stock Exchange? I bought a small amount of a mining stock a while back and it's now worthless, but I didn't sell the stock and so I assume I am out of luck when it comes to claiming a capital loss.

Good news: Even though you didn't sell the shares before they were delisted, you still may be able to claim a capital loss – either now or in the future – depending on the status of the company.

According to Section 50(1) of the Income Tax Act, there are three scenarios in which a loss can be claimed:

  • the company went bankrupt during the year
  • the company is insolvent and subject to a “winding-up order”
  • the company is insolvent; it no longer carries on business; the fair market value of the shares is nil; and “it is reasonable to expect that the corporation will be dissolved or wound up and will not commence to carry on business.”

If one of the above three situations applies, the investor can deem to have disposed of the stock at the end of the year "for proceeds equal to nil and to have re-acquired it immediately after the end of the year at a cost equal to nil," the Income Tax Act states.

Why the bit about reacquiring the shares for nil?

Well, if the shares happen to increase in value at a later date (unlikely, but not impossible), the investor could potentially realize a capital gain and have to pay tax.

According to a TD Waterhouse bulletin, because there is no form for making a Section 50(1) election, investors should attach a signed letter to the tax return stating that they want Section 50(1) to apply to the shares. "For returns that are electronically filed, all elections and supporting documentation must be submitted in writing," TD Waterhouse says in the bulletin (available at tinyurl.com/kpoy2sg).

Your broker may be able to facilitate an even simpler solution. For investors holding delisted (and presumably worthless) stock, some financial institutions will agree to purchase the shares for a token amount (a penny per share, for example) and then charge the client a nominal fee so that the net cost to both parties is zero.

"This allows the client to use the transaction slip from the sale for tax purposes," TD Waterhouse says.

"It is important to understand the potential downside of utilizing this procedure: If the 'worthless security' ever revives itself and becomes relisted and tradable, you would have given up all ownership rights by selling the shares to the financial institution."

 

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When I asked my own discount broker, BMO InvestorLine, about its procedure, I was told that delisted shares can be disposed of using a "deed of gift" form. Essentially, the client agrees to give the broker the worthless shares and the disposition appears in the client's transaction history with a value of zero. This provides a record that can be used to claim the loss for tax purposes.

BMO's deed of gift form states that it is the investor's "responsibility to determine whether the gift of the securities constitutes a disposition within the Income Tax Act (Canada) which would allow the donor(s) to realize a capital loss."

So take heart: If the company you own goes bust, you can still claim a loss on the shares even if there is no market for them.

If I may leave you with one other piece of advice: Try to invest only in stable, profitable companies with a history of paying dividends. That will reduce the chances of finding yourself in a similar situation again.

Comment by ZouZS3 on Dec 12, 2022 5:51pm
What hurts the most is that I had most of my holdings in my TFSA. I have to say bye bye to all my previous tfsa contributions forever. All I have left is a 6.5k contribution limit in 2023 without being able to claim any sort of capital loss. This is crazy. 
Comment by StiveG on Dec 12, 2022 6:20pm
Yep. Same here.
Comment by ferret_ca on Dec 12, 2022 11:20pm
there is only one thing crazy here zou, and that is that you would put all your tfsa money into a risky stock like xbc, you gambled and lost, plain and simple, you didn't invest, you took a moon shot with your tfsa with blinders on, I hope you are young enough to recover and learned a valuable lesson here,   did you do this on your own if not who the heck gave you this kind of advice ...more  
Comment by ferret_ca on Dec 12, 2022 11:35pm
I have done exactly this many many moons ago when a similar thing happened to a stock I held at the time, a techstock slmsoft. so I just wrote it off as a complete loss that year , didn't attch anything and never had an issue, that's what I would do in this case, worst case. even if they come after you later the worst case would be only if it traded and you sold it you'd pay tathe tax ...more