RE:RE:Valens acting as safe haven nowhere is a definition of safe haven stock for you so you know what I meant:
"A safe haven is an investment that is expected to retain or increase in value during times of market turbulence. Safe havens are sought by investors to limit their exposure to losses in the event of market downturns"
Defensive stock is what you hope won't go down in times of trouble, like the suposed pipline stocks.. Golad has been the traditional "safe haven" and so far it is showing to be just that..