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Questions surfacing

[chrisale]

There seems to be rumours lately that if the Raven Mine goes through and the resultant Acid Mine Drainage takes affect in Baynes sound that the shellfish industry may have to be shutdown.  600 jobs would be lost.  Remember that even though the shellfish fishery survived through the last coal mining days, it was not unscathed.  The shellfish from Baynes Sound are already affected by historic mining so Raven, and subsequently Bear if that is put through may put shellfish over the top.   No wonder the BC Shellfish Growers Association has taken such a strong stance if that's what they believe.

[c0lmustard]

I just spent some time on the BC Shellfish Grower's Association webpage. I believe that the two industries (mining and shellfish) can coexist. The Association cites several sources in relation to Ocean Acidification, including National Geographic. After reading the cited articles, I noticed that mining is not at all mentioned. National Geographic spoke of CO2 emitions from

[2girlz]

 "...young adults shouldn't have to leave the island to find work."  You state this as if it were a common fact. The fact is we live in a highly mobile world.  My children live in different cities than I do.  They went where their work skills took them.  That is the reality.  Nobody, in this day and age, can be assured of keeping their children

[chrisale]

I respect what you are saying but here is the other side: #1:   The consumption of fossil fuels, and chiefly coal, is contributing to the acidification of the worlds oceans and particularly Baynes Sound and other North East Pacific coastal areas.  This threatens far more than shellfish of course as many many species depend on shellfish, and so on down the line.  In the worst case

[jvand]

The skill set that people gain from working at a mine no matter how long/short is highly beneficial to their future should they choose a career in that field.   For example you have maintenance personel, heavy duty equipment operators, mining engineers, general labourers etc etc. Just because the experience gained is at a coal mine does not mean that it is only good

[mokita]

the elephant in the living room is that mining jobs without strong environmental laws to control diesel and coal dust, AMD, and methane/Co2 emissions puts all at significant risk.  The United Steel Workers point to deregulation as reason miners are getting cancers from breathing diesel fuel; environmental agencies responsible for identifying contaminated operating and abandoned mining sites

[mokita]

one more point:  1000 miners a year die from black lung disease that has doubled and can be controlled if there were government enforcement and mines paid the bucks to mitigate.  Strong mining lobby successfully puts coal profit ahead of health.  The Canadian government ignores the black lung statistics that are rising and mines like CEC fail to provide a budget for educating miners

[jvand]

I'm not researched into this problem at all, but wouldn't that be more applicable to underground coal mines? I thought the Raven project is going to be an Open pit mine?  Thats not to say that that will mitigate the problem but it should significantly decrease the potential to contract black lung disease. Just curious.

[2guys]

No jvand, The Raven is an underground coal mine, but it doesn't mean that CEC won't have proper safety measure implemented. We're in Canada, not China or other jurisdictions including the US where this has been downplayed. JMOhttps://www.mining.com/black-lung-disease-returns-to-coal-mines/ In Canada, unlike the US where compensation is more difficult to obtain, CWP cases must be report

[jvand]

Well I feel like an idiot.  Its called the "Raven Underground Coal Project".   Please excuse my last post. -_-

[mokita]

    It is hard to be restrained, but unless there are provisions in the CEC feasibility statment re measures and education programs to mitigate diesle fuel and coal partiicle pollution that puts miner health at grave risk and educate miners about how to get periodic examinations and how to prevent getting black lung disease, your comments fall into the realm of greenwashing or deciept to

[mokita]

2guys, when are you going to provide any evidence for your claims?  where is the evidence that Canadian regulations protect miner health, where is the evidence that CEC has a budget line to protect miner health? Contact the Ministry of Mines.... to hear their evidence of NOT providing provisions or eduction to miners re their increasing vulerability to black lung and other cancers.  

[mokita]

so, where in the CEC feasiblity statement is there a line item for education programs and medical programs to protect miners such as periodic Xrays and provisions that if they have contacted Black Lung they can qualify for jobs that don't put them at such high risk.  Mechanization and increase miner hours  has been identified as causes of the incerase of black lung.  where in