$4.20 copper and…$1,200 palladium were the numbers Jamie referenced during his Crux interview with regards to financing. Copper's cooperating, just need palladium to do so to. Surprised it's not with the increases in hybrid sales and the hype. Surely it's only a matter of time. Where are permits? That's getting frustrating. Waiting for metals pricing is one thing. Waiting on permits is getting very old.