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Post by Shooternow on Feb 20, 2018 12:49pm

Serious question.

With insurance companies poised to cover medical cannabis for people with severe deceases, wouldn't someone just choose their favourite cannabis to ease their pain? Why would they bother with a pill that they have to smoke?
Comment by Hammertown87 on Feb 20, 2018 1:21pm
DOCTORS WON'T GIVE PATIENTS WEED TO SMOKE FOR PAIN. THEY WANT TO SEE GOOD TRIALS DONE FIRST.
Comment by Shooternow on Feb 20, 2018 1:36pm
It's cannabis. If it's from a health canada approved medical cannabis producer why wouldn't a doctor prescribe it? Do you actually believe just because there's a trial done one ONE specific strain doctors will only prescribe that one product. Once cannabis is legal the stigma will be gone and you'll see more doctors prescribing it.
Comment by 4evergreen on Feb 20, 2018 1:54pm
Everything in medicine is geared towards scientific research and clinical trials. Some doctors and insurance may support it a bit now but once the DIN is in place it's a given that they'll go to that. It won't be a question of stigma unless you are talking rec usage. Just ask StockNurse, ScienceGirl, or anyone who has a medical background.
Comment by Stocknurse on Feb 20, 2018 2:45pm
This is correct. There seems to be some confusion about Health Canada's role. Please review their website: https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-health-products/medical-use-marijuana/licensed-producers/consumer-information-cannabis-marihuana-marijuana.html Note: Cannabis is not an approved therapeutic product and the provision of this information should not be ...more  
Comment by Dondeal88 on Feb 20, 2018 6:01pm
stocknurse did you say doctors are not prescribing medical cannabis without trials of DIN?? How do you explain the cannabis sales by companies like canopy, aphria and other ACMPR licence holders?? medical marijuana has been legal in canada for a couple of years and has been prescribed by medical practitioners ever since. the original 'serious question' has yet to be answered,, if sunlife ...more  
Comment by Jgrodych on Feb 20, 2018 6:26pm
1. Only drugs with a DIN can be advertised/promoted. 2. Your question only relates to Canada which is a tiny shred of the market.  What about USA, Europe, and the rest of the world? 3. Doctors, pharmacists, and insurance companies will prefer drugs with a DIN ONCE they become available.  The average joe won’t be able to get a prescription for a bag of dope a few years down the road ...more  
Comment by Chuck03 on Feb 20, 2018 6:28pm
Sunlife is one insurance company of many in Canada. Doesn't include the states. Doesn't mean doctors will prescribe cannabis, although some have without a DIN. Sunlife's decision to include cannabis is not typical, and will be accepted by all insurance companies, and more doctors, with PPP001.
Comment by madboxx on Feb 20, 2018 6:52pm
dondeal88, lets not forget, that ppp001 is a unique ( their words) tri-blend pellet, with pot supplied from aphria, if you read and do some DD from the tetra site you may not have to ask questions. go to the site, read some news releases please. not all doctors will prescribe med pot, but if and when they do decide to research it, you can bet they will research something with a DIN number first ...more  
Comment by charly90 on Feb 20, 2018 7:12pm
Bull eye Mad!
Comment by Dondeal88 on Feb 20, 2018 8:41pm
unique tri-blend pellet of cannabis! it is cannabis! THC and CBD.. with a pipe! pls dont piss on me and tell me its raining..we all know it has incredible health benefits but thats not the point.  anyway you all make great points.. and I am more oprimistic after reading them. I just hope more insurance companies dont cover medical cannabis before the DIN. Cause the more they cover it the less ...more  
Comment by madboxx on Feb 20, 2018 9:40pm
make no mistake dondeal88, once a DIN number is approved, by both health Canada and the FDA, doctors WILL more than likely prescribe that first, not just an open prescription, tetra is targeting, honing a market, this will take time, and I have lots of time. GLTA
Comment by Stocknurse on Feb 20, 2018 6:43pm
What they are doing is considered a prescription by their regulatory bodies- see their webpages. The context for which this prescription is given is to allow “access”. What I am saying is that after legalization this changes- it’s not access that is needed ( except for children). If you read the proposed regulatory framework they talk about two or one system of regulating cannabis - I see it as ...more  
Comment by ScienceGirl on Feb 20, 2018 2:30pm
Shooternow you're entitled to your opinion, but I have to agree with 4evergreen regarding research backed treatments. I don't know a single Dr. (and I've worked with 100s, though I'm no an MD myself) who would prescribe something that isn't actually proven through a clinical trial. How many doctors do you see prescribing oregano or tea tree oil? It is legal, it is very good for ...more  
Comment by Shooternow on Feb 20, 2018 2:32pm
People are being prescribed medical cannabis RIGHT NOW. Doctors are prescribing it NOW! lol
Comment by Brootal on Feb 20, 2018 9:37pm
Common, we all know most of those doctors prescribing weed are straight up quacks. Real doctos won't go near it yet. I've to spoken to several and always hear the same answer.
Comment by Chuck03 on Feb 20, 2018 10:05pm
Real doctors prescribe opioids?
Comment by Brootal on Feb 21, 2018 2:25pm
Yes, dont be obtuse. When someone is at the end of their life with cancer, they get pain meds.  This is why we are going for something smokable for these people. It works fast and there is zero risk of long term problems because there is no long term for these pour souls.  
Comment by Chuck03 on Feb 21, 2018 2:40pm
Ummm, I agree? Did you just say obtuse?
Comment by AtownMtl on Feb 21, 2018 4:06pm
yeah smoking beside an oxygen tank makes a lot of sense!!
Comment by Chuck03 on Feb 21, 2018 4:10pm
opioids with negative side effects makes a lot of sense too!!
Comment by AtownMtl on Feb 21, 2018 4:12pm
opioids end of life is not a bad thing it actually helps !
Comment by Chuck03 on Feb 21, 2018 4:13pm
how??
Comment by AtownMtl on Feb 21, 2018 4:15pm
helps with the respiratory distress
Comment by Chuck03 on Feb 21, 2018 4:25pm
The only thing I found on opioids affects on respiration: Overdosing on opioid painkillers or heroin can lead to respiratory depression, a slowing of breathing. At sufficient doses, respiratory arrest can deprive the brain and body tissues of oxygen. This can easily prove fatal, or result in debilitating organ system injury. When opioids attach to receptors in the brain, they can interact ...more  
Comment by Chuck03 on Feb 21, 2018 4:27pm
If anything, opioids cause respiratory distress.
Comment by AtownMtl on Feb 21, 2018 4:36pm
they cause respiratory depression... not distress
Comment by AtownMtl on Feb 21, 2018 4:39pm
opioids are not all bad !! the way they are used prescribed by Md's are often questionable! but they do have some benefits and the same goes for Mj
Comment by AtownMtl on Feb 21, 2018 4:34pm
https://www.bmj.com/content/348/bmj.g445.long https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/104990919901600113?journalCode=ajhb took me 2 minutes ... can find more if you like
Comment by Chuck03 on Feb 21, 2018 4:54pm
The first study had to do with mortality rate, and "Our finding that concurrent treatment with benzodiazepines and higher dose opioids was associated with increased mortality might be a true adverse effect or reflect more severe underlying disease that requires higher doses to relieve symptoms". So needing high doses (tolerance) to relieve symptoms, yet higher mortality rate. Sounds like ...more  
Comment by AtownMtl on Feb 21, 2018 5:03pm
dont agree with you !! 
Comment by AtownMtl on Feb 21, 2018 5:05pm
but respect your opinions
Comment by Chuck03 on Feb 21, 2018 6:46pm
They weren't opinions. I was reading from the research you posted.
Comment by Ripsanddips on Feb 21, 2018 5:06pm
Call TBP and ask them yourself  that's what I did  amazing the type of info you get when you ask the right sources 
Comment by av8tor42 on Feb 21, 2018 6:13pm
LOL...Maybe you should call me!!!...LOL the right sources...I guess if they all jump of a bridge you will be right behind them...there are only so many life preservers...hope you can tread water.
Comment by LeafRider on Feb 21, 2018 4:39pm
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Comment by AtownMtl on Feb 21, 2018 4:40pm
PP005 will be huge !! never been a fan of PP001...just my opinion
Comment by Ripsanddips on Feb 21, 2018 5:01pm
there is no pp005 without PP001 . Do you really think TBP started with a smokable because they thought that's what the market wants or did they do it because taking an un altered dried cannabis product through trials is much faster than a derivative and once you have the botanical approved all derivatives will be aswell ? You guys need to look at this through the eyes of pharma and not just ...more  
Comment by LeafRider on Feb 21, 2018 4:11pm
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Comment by AtownMtl on Feb 21, 2018 4:14pm
actually a lot of them are !! you still mad you averaged up in the 1.40's... nice move
Comment by frewil11 on Feb 20, 2018 2:33pm
Ya but it is an alternative to an Opiate , wich i'm sure alot of people do not want to use for obvious reasons.  
Comment by ItsLevels2This on Feb 21, 2018 11:36am
I dont think Tetra is banking on Canada's market so much as the American market. Once they get the DIN it wont matter if its federally legal inthe United States yet or not because with that DIN they can effectively penetrate the U.S market regardless of how the fed's view it by then. We will have a huge upperhand by tapping into that market before any other Canadian company can and from my ...more  
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