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Home Capital Group Inc HMCBF


Primary Symbol: T.HCG

Home Capital Group Inc. is a Canada-based holding company that operates through its principal subsidiary, Home Trust Company (Home Trust). Home Trust is a federally regulated trust company offering residential and non-residential mortgage lending, securitization of residential mortgage products, consumer lending and credit card services. In addition, Home Trust and its wholly owned subsidiary, Home Bank offer deposits through brokers and financial planners, and through a direct-to-consumer brand, Oaken Financial. Its mortgage lending includes classic single-family residential lending, insured residential lending, residential commercial lending, and non-residential commercial lending. Its consumer lending loan portfolio comprises credit cards, lines of credit and other consumer retail loans. In addition, the Company manages a treasury portfolio to support liquidity requirements and invest excess capital.


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Comment by WBuffett1on Feb 16, 2018 1:04pm
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Finally a more sophisticated article on HCG's Q4 results

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Finally a more sophisticated article on HCG's Q4 results

You would think that someone that has worked in the capital markets for many years (aka Tater78) would know how to read the financial reports. The LTV distribution is very healthy and will get better as they are now seeing higher quality borrowers and smaller loan amount approved due to B20.

peregrine01 wrote: The distribution is fairly well stated in their report: Home's LTV at origination is about 70%. 96% of their book has an LTV of 75% or less. 74% of their book has an LTV of 65% or less.

Lol- who knows what your trading is. If you want to see the stock move up, then why keep posting your bullshit opinion here? You should thank me for providing you this education. I could very well shut up, not rebut your bullshit and let you keep losing money on your position.
 

Tater78 wrote: Averages for LTVs are pretty useless. The distribution is far more important. Half the book at 20% LTV and half at 90% gets you an average of 55% and I think we'd all agree that is dangerous. But since this is Canada, you'll never get more disclosure than the average. Yay.

6 months after the 89 bubble burst, rates started going down and in 89 debt to income was about 60%. Today, it's 150% and rates are going up. 

And I'm not currently short. I made my money in the spring and am now waiting to get back in this. But thanks for your concern.

peregrine01 wrote: Let's see - Canadians have a history of paying off mortgages even when they're underwater +  the company has a 55% LTV buffer. It will take a scenario the likes of which Canada has never experienced to see that buffer disappear. And even in that event, Canadians will continue to pay off their mortgage. The closest parallel is what happened in the early 90s when Toronto home prices fell 40% on an inflation-adjusted basis from peak to trough and unemployment rose to double digits...yet mortgage arrears never topped 1%.

But good luck shorting a stock that is still priced well under BV and paying the high borrow costs. That's truly a great strategy for long-term capital appreciation.

Tater78 wrote: Oh dear. You missed the key caveat: if they avoid loan losses. I don't think they will, and then we'll see what the true value of the loans on their balance sheet are. I'm expecting 85 cents on the dollar, and that means equity is gone. But time will tell. In the interim, I'd be quite happy if the stock went to 30. 


canader wrote: Hahahahahaha!

Oh Boy, Haven't you come a long way. 

From the good old days of this baby is going to zero, now you are worried about wether they have a growth plan or not. Hahahahahaha!

I came in after April, so YoY is meaningless. I came in when it was a 200mil write down on Q2.

You bet ya, I think HCG is doing just great ;)

Now They are profitable, Now they are stable. They and all the other banks are in a more normal real estate environment. So comparing to last year's crazy all in real estate market is just plain stupid.

They have stabalized their book, and they are profitable, and their originations are on the rise.
The only thing you can poopoo is how fast they recover, not if.

Everyone run for the hills. The loan book  is gonna shrink to zero. Run, Run, Run and hide.
Hahahahahaha! HA!

Time baby, I got time!


Tater78 wrote: "We will grow responsibly," Yousry Bissada, the company's chief executive, said on a conference call.

Well, they're going to have to start growing at all before we can decide if it is responsible. They are headed back to pre-2010 balance sheet size. Best longs can hope for is that they don't have an increase in loan losses and they get a special dividend.

Earnings will stick in that 35 to 40 cent range (barring loa losses) as the loan book shrinks down. 

WBuffett1 wrote:

Seriously BNN reporters are like high school newspaper writers compared to these guys. It is just pure stupid to compare Q4 2017 and Q4 2016 results.

Below is a more sophisticated article written by G&M.


Home Capital Group Inc
. is increasing the pace at which it issues new home loans as the alternative mortgage lender seeks to rebuild its diminished business.

Continuing a gradual recovery from a run on deposits that threatened its survival last spring, Home Capital originated $872-million in new mortgages in the fourth quarter of 2017 – up 126 per cent compared with the third quarter and well ahead of some estimates, although still a far cry from the $2.4-billion in new loans issued a year earlier.

The company is flush with capital to help fuel its recovery and, on Thursday, analysts pressed for details about how the lender might spend those funds. Company executives responded that excess capital could be used to bolster the core business, pursue acquisitions or invest in technology – but won't be returned to shareholders just yet. They won't consider buying back shares or restarting the company's suspended dividend until the second half of 2018.

Home Capital's profit grew only 2 per cent while its total portfolio of residential mortgages shrank by 3.5 per cent, settling at $10-billion. New stress tests being applied to many mortgages threaten to restrain activity in the housing market and fourth-quarter results still show steep declines when compared with results from a year ago, prior to disclosures from securities regulators that shook confidence in the lender. But with each passing quarter, Home Capital appears more stable.

"We will grow responsibly," Yousry Bissada, the company's chief executive, said on a conference call.

"Having excess capital is a privilege and a great position to be [in], and we don't apologize – because of headwinds, because of regulatory stress tests, because of all the things we want to do with it."

The company's common equity tier 1 capital ratio, a measure watched closely by regulators, was a plump 23.17 per cent as of Dec. 31, well above what is required.

"This provides us with an abundant level of security," Mr. Bissada said.

Home Capital turned a modest profit in the fourth quarter, with net income of nearly $31-million or 38 cents a share, down 40 per cent from nearly $51-million or 79 cents a year ago – prior to the company's liquidity crisis. But profit edged 2 per cent higher compared with the third quarter of 2017.

Fourth-quarter revenue was $109.5-million, down 24 per cent from the same quarter last year, but recovered somewhat from $95.4-million in the third quarter.

For the full year, Home Capital recorded only $7.5-million in profit, compared with $247.4-million a year earlier, mostly because the company had $224-million in added expenses from the liquidity crisis last spring.

Mr. Bissada said it's "too early to tell" what impact new mortgage regulations may have on Home Capital's ability to attract new business.

On Jan. 1, Canada's banking regulator introduced a new stress test on uninsured mortgages that will make it harder for some prospective borrowers to qualify for home loans.

Since then, some Home Capital clients have "qualified for smaller loans than they would have last year," Mr. Bissada said.

The overall credit quality of new clients has improved, however, which could signal that some borrowers who would have qualified at larger institutions may now be turning to Home Capital.

Another sign the lender's tarnished reputation is improving is that it has begun hiring again, including in its commercial-lending division, after slashing 10 per cent of its staff last fall to control costs.

"Six, seven or eight months ago, the company had trouble drawing talent into it, so we're very pleased with how that's shifted," Mr. Bissada said.


 

 

 

 

 




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