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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Hyakugo Bank Ord Shs HYKUF

The Hyakugo Bank, Ltd. is a Japan-based company mainly provides financial services such as leasing business mainly banking. The Company mainly operates through two business segments. The Banking segment provides deposit services, loan services, domestics exchange services and foreign exchange services. This segment is involved in the investment trust and insurance counter sales, financial... see more

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Hyakugo Bank Ord Shs > Next years’s contract question
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Post by dowd on May 16, 2022 11:47pm

Next years’s contract question

Hi Guys, 

Can you tell me if how I am looking at this is correct?

In about 4 months time Corsa can negotiate a new annual contract. The futures strip for 2023 are currently about $330 per ton averaging all 12 months on the futures strip. 


Ok, so if I ballpark that Corsa can lock in $250 for a new 12 month contract for all their own production just for arguements sake which is 800,000 tons. 


if I take the $250 per ton and subtract $132 per ton in expenses I get $118 per ton in free cash flow. Call it $100 per ton multiplied by 800,000 tons gives me $80,000,000 USD in free cash flow for 2023. 


and this can be locked in in about 4 1/2 months from today assuming futures do not decline between now and September/October. European coal sanctions on Russian coal begin August 1st so we should be fine on that front..

the market cap of Corsa today is about $25,000,000 and Corsa could throw off $80,000,000 in free cash flow next year. Huh? 


is my way of looking at this correct? Light at the end of the tunnel? 


i was shellshocked by the news but have not sold based on this way of looking at the company. Am I missing something?

Comment by elducky on May 17, 2022 11:50am
If you want to be very conservative, maybe $200 instead of $250. Hard to imagine their costs getting worse.  The market is saying they will find a way to screw it up I guess. Plus still a lot of sellers who are just sellnig from disgust rather than thinking it through. 
Comment by dowd on May 17, 2022 9:13pm
Yes, that I the perfect word for how the market views the stock right now: Disgust! we will just have to let those sellers finish selling, and I can't blame them also in a way. That was my first reaction after reading the earnings report. i wanted to sell too but not at the price that the stock opened at. I will just have to suck it up for a while and deal with the digusted feeling ...more  
Comment by Creemore77 on May 19, 2022 10:28am
What have you been able to find on contract renewal?  I think Corsa should give a lot more disclosure than they have.  Q1 says they are getting the equivalent of $206 fob port versus market $350+, and they say they price off contracts based on an index, which is not super helpful.  If they could close the gap by even $50 I think a lot of us on this board would go help them dig the ...more  
Comment by elducky on May 20, 2022 1:02pm
New contracts are usually around September, so if the price can stay elevated just another 3-4 months they are golden. And I'm seeing that this crazy market is 18 months - 8 years depending who you ask.  Can't see them getting less than $200, that's the floor basically. Could be more in the $250-$300 range for sure. Now, if they'd be nice enough to come out and tell us in ...more  
Comment by MikeCowans on May 28, 2022 12:44am
o.k sir lol