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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Kontrol Technologies Corp KNRLF


Primary Symbol: N.KNR

Kontrol Technologies Corp. is a Canadian company, which is engaged in smart buildings and cities through Internet of things (IoT), cloud and software as a service (SaaS) technology. The Company provides solutions and services to its customers to improve energy management, monitor continuous emissions and accelerate the sustainability of all buildings. It aggregates data generated by IoT devices... see more

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Kontrol Technologies Corp > Q2 filled-in blanks
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Post by Mostlyserious on Aug 15, 2023 9:25am

Q2 filled-in blanks

Pretty sad that shareholders have to fill in the numbers for their financial results NR's but that is that way that these characters seem to want to operate. Not sure how they would expect to attract serious investors.

EBITDA (adjusted): $863K

Operating cashflow:  $815K (but total cashflow $145K).  Note that they do not show what happened last quarter, but rather show what happened over the last 6 months, and that can cause confusion for the uninformed or give fodder for the pumpers to suggest more of a loan payment this quarter than actually occured.

Net income:  $100K

Balance sheet improvement:  I guess we can pick what we want.
Book value (total equity): $2.300 million compared to $2.185 million in Q1.
Working capital (current assets-current liabilities):  negative $7.7 million vs negative $8.1 million
Current liabilities in form of revolver and term loans:  $11.371 million vs $11,692 million; therefore $321k reduction from last quarter.
The FBA has been extended until January 2024.  Not a surprise as long as they meet new requirements.

So, there you have it.  It is an indebted company which is making due with a core business that annualized based on latest generates a positive bottom line, positive cashflow and an EBITDA of ($863K*4) about roughly $3.5 million.

PG has often talked about acquisitions and many are dreaming that KNR would be acquired by a biggy.  First, PG said that as a target you become interesting to biggies when your revenues hit between $50 and $100 million.  We are not even halfway to the bottom of that range.  Second, PG said he likes to acquire companies at 4 to 5 times of their EBITDA.  If KNR was private and he was buying it, this would amount to about $12.25 million but I would doubt that he would pay this amount and not adjust for the outstanding loan and a negative working capital.  You wouldn't pay $1 million for a market value of a home and add previous owner's outstanding morgage on top, I would think.  So, we are talking about somethig worth not much more than half a dozen million and then add the premium for a listed company and incorporate some growth rates.  In other words, at $18 million market cap, this is not a bargain based on the latest financial statements.

It will be a long wait for many of us to recover losses to some reasonable degree (unless there is something huge strategic that happens like some new revolutionary technology....nevermind), so hopefully you have a comfortable seat.

Comments and opinions welcome, mostly sensible ones.
Comment by okgonow on Aug 15, 2023 10:25am
i am all out of sensible here! my hope but probably just a dream is that: Ghezzhole has the good fortune that someone working there comes up with some new tech or propriatay programing on the energy saving stuff or the emission stuff......and a large player pays oooooodles for it  a he managed to fool people before with some sort of Crypto stuff then the carbon credit sceem (you never hear ...more  
Comment by Mostlyserious on Aug 15, 2023 12:02pm
Yes, it takes a lot of integrity to own millions of shares see them go from a few dimes to over $6 while knowing that things that made it go up that much are nowhere to be found and not sell any shares. Glad we were told on time how bad things were going, or not going, to have had the ability to minimize our own losses before SP hit half of those high SP levels.  Not.