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Comment by victor2009on Feb 11, 2010 12:00am
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RE: LBE vs ISM

RE: LBE vs ISMaatozz feels a need to post on this forum, to pump the stock of her choice. Nickel77 took the time to respond to the convoluted calculations. I'll paste a comparative of the two methods. Those familiar with the reality of converting estimated resources through to revenue from sales, and some of the economic reports done to NI 43-101 standards, will quickly notice that Nickel77's approach is rational, and can see the weaknesses in the efforts of our amateur hour forecaster.

Nickel77 took the time to set out a response to Judy's convoluted mining profit demonstration, and Nickel77 set it out in a format that indicates an understanding of the issues, and one in which Judy could respond to the differences, if she was so moved. Judy doesn't seem to discuss the differences between her effort, and that of Nickel77's. I wonder why? Let's have a look at some of the differences. Reminiscent of Judy's first effort when she assumed there was no tonnages losses from in situ to saleable. This go round Judy, having been shown as completely ignorant on the subject, has again been very optimistic (that's a kind way of saying completely unrealistic) on the ease with which indicated resources become net smelter revenue. Lets compare the two models, and maybe someone familiar with the mining process could discuss the realities with Judy.  Maybe Judy could start the conversation by explaining the reasoning behind the bolded items.

One thing that's evident, is Judy meets all the requirements of the ISM pumper. Like Darcel and drillbit, she's out by a factor of ten (likely more!)

 
    Nickel77 Judy Judy
    L2 L2 L1 and L2
Tonnes in resource   8,324,000 8,324,000 10,000,000
Expected reserves %   60.00% 100.00% 100.00%
Expected reserves   4,994,400 8,324,000 10,000,000
Average grade   0.40% 0.400% 0.419%
Metallurgical recovery   55.00% 80.40% 80.40%
Smelter accountability   75.00% 100.00% 100.00%
Price of Ni per pound   $8.00 $7.00 $7.00
Net Smelter Revenue   $145,367,006 $413,220,048 $520,000,000
Pit cost per tonne   $4.50 $4.56 $4.56
Underground cost per tonne   $35.00
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G&A A $3.50
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Milling cost per tonne B $16.00
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Environmental cost per tonne C $1.50
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G&A, milling, environmental A+B+C $21.00 $25.00 $25.00
Tonnes in constrained pit   2,000,000 8,324,000 10,000,000
Total mine and mill costs   $218,686,400 $246,057,440 $295,600,000
Cash flow before taxes   -$73,319,394 $167,162,608 $224,400,000
Taxes   32.00% 31.82% 31.82%
Earnings   -$73,319,394 $113,974,505 $153,000,000
         
Note: if there were no pit constraints        
Mine & mill costs would be   $127,357,200 $246,057,440 $295,600,000
Cash flow before taxes   $18,009,806 $167,162,608 $224,400,000
Taxes   32.00% 31.82% 31.82%
Earnings   $12,246,668 $113,974,505 $153,000,000
         
Capital costs        
Mill on site     $60,000,000

Mine development   $50,000,000

Equipment   $10,000,000

Total   $120,000,000

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