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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Nemaska Lithium Inc NMKEF

Nemaska Lithium Inc is a Canada based lithium company. It is engaged in exploring and evaluating lithium properties and processing of spodumene into lithium compounds in Quebec, Canada. The company supplies lithium hydroxide and lithium carbonate to the lithium battery industry used in electric vehicles, cell phones, tablets, and other consumer products.

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Comment by Calgary_AB on Sep 01, 2020 4:12pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:valuation model NMX to LAC

for anyone wandering why I still post, below is just one example of stupid people bashing me...that is why I am still here...I will be the last one posting here before they close it...


Calgary_AB wrote: I will be back here to remind you how bad of an investment you made and how wrong you are…
Learn how to spell or use a program to spell for you it’s 50 cents an “Hour“…how ironic you misspel the very phrase you complain about someone else’s misspel…  what a loser…
"We might have run this a few more days, but you're looking SO pathetic and are SO beat up that everyone knows what you post is garbage"   = What did you just say? who is the "We"? are you in Guy's office now? Please tell Guy he can not pump this out of the hole, the pump is running dry because he did not watch it and  did not look after it...

“but every time you post it actually now works against our efforts.” Ohhh so you do agree your effort is to pump this up? And also you say “we” is that you and Anon? or is that the whole forum?
You keep talking in other people’s names….are you guys in one room meeting and brainstorming how to pump this and how to argue with me? Listen you idiot, you can not possibly think you and your baboon group can outsmart me…so be happy I will stop uncovering your cover as a paid NMX pumper group and move on… you are an easy detect from just the way you talk, “we” this, “we” that, “we” pay someone…

you are so full of yourself.
NMX is dead to me but I will reply to every pump you post, be ready to face the truth you dumb pumper...

starsearcher40 wrote: Ok, now that's just too damn funny.  NMX is dead to you?  You only now realize what an idiot you've been?

Let me translate this:

"Calgary, Your (pathetic) services are no longer needed.  We're about to announce the overallotment has been taken up, and we'll now cover the short with that overallotment." 

There may also be this tagline: 

"We might have run this a few more days, but you're looking SO pathetic and are SO beat up that everyone knows what you post is garbage. It's somewhat ironic...in a sad way... but every time you post it actually now works against our efforts.  Trust that next time we'll spend the extra .50-cents an nour and try and find someone at least a little brighter....or at least one that knows how to spell "phrase" (not "fraze")

See ya later loser!!    ;)))

Calgary_AB wrote: You know what? You are right… I told myself I will hang on and see how the financing will go and decide if I reinvest or not…you raised a good question; what the heck am I still hanging around when I know it’s kind of dead to me anyway….
So here are some Reasons:
Management has no credit and no experience in financing or running a business.
They lie and mislead.
The stock is way too diluted for me and I see it go sideways for long periods of time, if it goes up with a sector hype is the time to get out and not the time to hope…to easy to manipulate with so many sharks in the pool…
Too many things have to happen for it to gain true gains and too many things can easily happen for it to go down in a hurry….
Too risky and not enough reward..
NMX is officially dead to me
GLTA


starsearcher40 wrote: Insults to you? They will stop when you stop posting endless garbage Calgary.  You attempt to mislead and divert, and cast doubt.  We all know that, and it is just all too easy to blast massive holes through your endless irrelevant blather.

You come back when you are going to take a position, which, according to you will be when management changes.  Until then you're just an annoying irrelevant not too bright freak.  I'd dismantle you again, but really, there's not much left of you after the last time. ;)


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Calgary_AB wrote: I don't care how happy you are with your decisions, just like you don't care how happy I am for sticking to my decision and not getting caught in a dilution...but personal insults I do care and has to stop.



starsearcher40 wrote: I'm completely comfortable with the stock and with the prospects.  Unlike you, I don't feel the need to regurgitate cra*p, flooding the board with useless or irrelevant posts.  Btw, I'm not being paid (minimum wage) by the hour to do just that.  What a sad little life you live Calgary.


Calgary_AB wrote: Even though my guess is we will no longer see starsearcher around here is the answer (with a question):
Why is Anon actually spending money on a website? Is he trying to educate us, for what reason? I don’t see him being attacked on anything…how come he pays money to have a website, he doesn’t really post anything with essence or question the management but simply pumping and confirming everything positive you can read on NMX site, when things go south he will cash out his holdings (if he has any) and you never hear about him again, pumper? I don’t know, Paid pumper? I don’t know…but why?
I am not spending any money on a website to educate you and I am simply posting my opinions so others can question the motives that Anon, starsearcher and a few others have, isn't that the reason they even have a forum like this?…and I have not posted yet that NMX is dead to me, I posted that in PE forum a couple years back and I never looked back (I lost 0.34 per share and I had a couple hundred thousend shares), I posted that in TVI forum years back and never looked back (I made 0.12 per share and had half million shares)…NMX is still on my radar until I either pull the trigger to buy or decide it’s dead to me…in the main time I will question the pumpers when I see them taking over the forum.
And on top of all that, I was right from very beginning on my opinions…so you be the judge of that…


starsearcher40 wrote: Still waiting for your brilliant answer Calgary.  Don't dodge.

WHY would ANYONE who has NO position, and WON'T take one until there is a change of management, waste countless hours posting here?  Stating the obvious, it is someone who's bubble isn't centred (and never will be), or, more likely, they're being paid to spread cra*p.


Go ahead bright light.  Give an answer to the above that makes ANY sense at all. And no, you're not doing us a favour, or trying to save us from ourselves.  And yes, saying that after 40 years you still live in your mommy's basement and have no life whatsoever IS a valid response.  ;)

Calgary_AB wrote: Really Starsearcher, what do you get out of trying to bully me like this?
There are a lot of underlying issues with you, can you go get checked by a professional?



starsearcher40 wrote: I didn't miss your "fraze" (wow, that's not even a typo or autospell. It's just plain illiterate.) . Your PHRASE is built on the premise that you deserve respect.  I'll let you know when you do.


Calgary_AB wrote: you missed my last fraze in my original reply to BColdtimer:

"If you want to add or argue any points, please do so without attacking me or bashing me, these are my opinions and my gut feeling, you can change that by having a reply that makes sense…you can ask me for any point I made to back it up or you can google it yourself. Outcomes are all just opinions, no one ever actually know an outcome Positive or Negative…is just opinions…"


starsearcher40 wrote: Calgary, you are simply one of THE dumbest trolls I've EVER come across.

1) "Strong hands looked at the financial request and said to Guy; go back, build a small something, make some money, rebuild your credit and come back in a couple of years when you have something to show us."    Seriously?  AFTER the mine is built?  AFTER they are cash flow positive and don't need money or financing? Why would they need to go back for financing at that point?  Ummm, the wouldn't.

2) Again, on the financing.  You think they raise close to a billion dollars on people flipping for pennies? Dumb beyond belief.  And what part is speculation?  The reserve? No. The mine buildout? No.

3) You say that you won't invest until management changes, yet you also say you've invested in this stock (oh, and of course made money) any number of times.  hmm, same management, right?  Thanks for arguing with yourself again. ;)

4) And here's the biggest question of all.  WHY, if you hold no position, and won't until management changes, WHY would you even be here posting ad naseum at all??

Yep, upon review you win Calgary. Biggest dummass troll I've EVER come across, and there was some serious competition. But you...sheesh, you blow them all way. Congrats!

Calgary_AB wrote: I continue to post cr..ap that you newbie couldn’t possibly understand.
 
  1. Everybody big and small care ONLY about money on daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly and yearly base…no one is in it for the lithium or for the fun of it.
  2. You saw nothing yet. You are way too nave and stupid to see anything…
  3. We seem to agree on this one, I was talking about exactly that 1.5 years ago.
  4. I actually do understand. Credit matters, when credit score is very low, you can still get a loan and it’s actually called “Shark loan” it’s called that for a reason…the question is, do you understand the mechanics?
  5.  Noone said the big boys “have to feed the juniors”, they simply do it, without the juniors (prospecting and exploration) the big boys would have to do that on their own otherwise so they prefer to finance juniors and if they are successful they will buy them out…
  6. Right now is all speculation. Strong hands looked at the financial request and said to Guy; go back, build a small something, make some money, rebuild your credit and come back in a couple of years when you have something to show us. The financing done was supper dilutive for that reason…the reason was so dilutive is because of why the investors did invest (for a possibility of quick buck)… yes you built wealth if you buy into a proven company that has a positive cashflow and a history of positive earnings. That’s where the really strong hands are. When financing firms invest into a company like NMX (good potential with stupid management) they basically gamble a certain amount of money on them… Strong hands sometimes invest into companies just because they know the management and not because the junior has something yet…
  7. If you believe in a recession time Li is the metal to get and LI will boom, you are probably a very young fellow…ask people that actually lived a recession or two…I am not on any teams here, you somehow see this as green and red team… by you saying you have a green team means the pumper team…I am a one guy team that can be green one day and red the next…I bought and sold this stock probably while you went learning how to drive…
And ofcourse: bang, you got me on your last point…read my posts junior, you will see I’ve said it time and time again… when you feel the most comfortable and things look good someone will s.hit in your coffee by dumping more… wait and see, it’s not over…one day, one week, it’s just noise…long term they still have a billion shares out…


starsearcher40 wrote:

Calgary, I've read your post and you either are continuing to post cra*p, and/or clearly don't know what you're talking about.

1) "Financial firms with big pockets need to show a daily profit from the work they did today."  Completely wrong.  The firms with big pockets are the firms that bought in on the financing.  They are not flipping for pennies, nor are they worried about today.  They know where the stock is heading in the longer term.

2) "NMX is perfect company to attract these shart frenzy."  As a company, wrong.  As a short term issue shorting against the overallotment which they will cover with, yes.  This will end this week.  We already saw evidence of it ending on Friday.

3)   "With the financing such big numbers it attracts the sharks.  When the financing is done right, the sharks are not attracted."  Completely wrong on multiple fronts.  ANY time there are shares available, such as in the overallotment, or via advance knowledge of the financing, the short game will be played, as the covering of the short is without any issue whatsoever.  This does not matter what company it is, or the size of the financing, and it happens all the time.

4) "When NMX says they had multiple good offers, they misleaded you".  The offers were from sharks.  Again, completely wrong, and makes no sense whatsoever.  Clearly you don't understand market mechanics and how the short game is played in these scenarios.

5) "Big funds have a certain amount to feed the juniors."  Again, completely wrong.  They are not obligated whatsoever, and will put the amount that they see fit as the opportunity presents itself.

6) "Strong hands will come in when they see positive cash flow".  Completely wrong. Strong hands bought in at the financing, with the anticipation of positive cash flow.    You don't build wealth buying in after the fact.

7) "but in my view a recession will starve the markets and financial system".  Well it's a damn good thing then that NMX ALREADY has money in the bank. And all the lithium mines that might hope to get financing in said recession, when the financial system is starved and no one can get financiing...well that's a good thing because there will be LESS lithium mines out there, therefore increasing demand.  Wow Calgary, did you just join our team??  ;)  It litterally makes me laugh out loud when I see you argue against yourself.

I actually should be thanking you for your post Calgary. It shows that you're either really green and don't have ANY clue how the markets work, or just try and flood out more cra*p that is all too easy to blast holes through. Let's hope you're just green.  Personally, I doubt it, but it's always nice to hope,as the alternative isn't pretty.

So a question then for you Grasshoppa.  With all the sharks circling as you suggest, why did the stock RISE  8.2% on Friday?  ;)


 

Calgary_AB wrote: Your post does make sense and Long term this are good numbers to compare.

Short term even to intraday I see NMX as being taken advantages of by big boys on daily bases until they actually produce and start showing positive cash flows.
 Why do I see that happening:
Financial firms with big pockets need to show a daily profit from the work they did today. When the big markets are dropping even a little, they all start looking at any opportunity they get to show they are green for the day. NMX is perfect company to attract these shark frenzy and regardless of actual valuation, market makers are there to make profits more so as day traders do. They take every opportunity in the book they can and even if not in the book yet they will invent it until someone makes it illegal or puts it in the book. With the financing such big numbers it attracts the sharks, when financing is done right with actual valuations being considered the sharks are not attracted therefore when NMX said they had multiple good offers they miss leaded you, the offers were from sharks. The sharks will make an offer as they know they can make the profits even before all shares are issued, from shorting to options, warrants, previous holdings they had etc… It takes a while to have the transfer into “Strong hands”, strong hands come in when they see positive cash flow. Ofcourse some strong hands will gamble a certain amount similar to what Softbank did. Softbank is simply laying eggs all over the place and not necessarily expect too much out of NMX, but if things work out they benefit, if it doesn’t work out they had eggs in the basket. You can watch videos about  Masayoshi Son, he is a brilliant guy and he takes chances in sectors he believes in for the future, but even he will tell you the chances he takes don’t always produce results…by the way, all big investors across all sectors do the same, they have a certain amount to feed the juniors and without those founds juniors would all die in all sectors. As far as the QC Gov. being invested in NMX also doesn’t tell me anything. Gov. will invest your tax money especially if it creates local jobs and has a chance of succeeding and NMX does have a chance… but Gov. can risk more than a private investor would. So the share issue part of investment is the most diluted part and that is the one that we see now playing the SP. All the sharks in a frenzy, you can try to get a piece of it but be aware of the sharks around you, they may swallow you by accident but most likely intentional…
My opinion: if you are long and bought in years ago, just wait for the frenzy to slow down, if you are a trader but got caught with shares you can turn to be long and potentially make your profits at the end or just unload and move on because until NMX actually shows a profit the sharks will play this and when you think they left the room and see no shark in site, you will get attacked from behind.
I have been a part of shark’s meals many times in the past and learned my lesson, let’s call it lessons…the actual Valuations and all the things that actually make sense are all broken when a shark infested waters are active…
For the Longs and people that do know about valuations, I am not saying this to deny your knowledge or to provoke a fight, all of us together on this whole forum can not possibly change the day…unless you have a billion dollars to save it with….if we all put our money together we are a small % of the sharks value… our numbers don’t really count and the point here is how do we protect our own money?
I protected mine by unloading everything before financing, I did it a little too early because financing was to be done last year in the spring…people that didn’t protect it and are longs, can look at this as a crack in the HI way to the destination unfortunately there will be more cracks before you get there, you could argue that buying more can be a good thing however that brings me to my next points:

 

  1. Trade war: if this keeps accelerating there will be a recession someone needs to back down first and I do not see US or China showing weakness first. Now you can believe what you want to believe but in my view a recession will starve the markets and financial system and for the duration of a recession nothing will flourish but precious metals.  That is the time to buy NMX because it would be at it’s lowest.
  2. With this amount of shares outstanding I see a consolidation coming in the future. That will be another entry point.
  3. With the shares moving into “strong hands” the power also shifts to strong hands, strong hands recognize good management and bad management from a mile away and that’s why they are “Strong” they will not put up with BS (example: MUX COO just quit a couple days ago, I had my finger on sell but the stock continued to grow like nothing happened- the COO probably did not perform SP so he probably got the option to quit or get fired, now that is strong management, have a performance evaluation)… when the strong hands take control is the time when this stock can double or more overnight, “strong hand” investment and management attracts even stronger investors. The sign that NMX didn’t get those strong investments in is exactly that week management with no credit and actually bad credit in their resumes. But that will change because the NMX Value is not fake and eventually strong hands will take control.
If you want to add or argue any points, please do so without attacking me or bashing me, these are my opinions and my gut feeling, you can change that by having a reply that makes sense…you can ask me for any point I made to back it up or you can google it yourself. Outcomes are all just opinions, no one ever actually know an outcome Positive or Negative…is just opinions…


BColdtimer wrote: LAC when they got derisked financially - Mar 29, 2017 - stock was trading at $1 (or $5 when consolidated later in the year) 46% of the value of the argentina project to LAC  ( MC/NPV = 308M shares / $668M)

NMX - Financially derisked with more shares than we hoped for, netherless at the same stage as LAC was at a year ago.   I'm using 931M fully diluted shares and $2.16B NPV.  at 46% this would no put NMX stock at $1.07.  Funny is that is about as high as it got since this share issuance announcement at the end of May 2018.

LAC has been working on there mine and what not since then, and now we are waiting for further commencement and work by NMX.   

LAC has been basically been trading at $7.5 plus or minus a few 10 cents or so.  At $7.50 LAC is trading at about 99% of its projects value  (MC 88.5M CS @ $7.5) / $667.8M NPV)
NMX if all goes as plan, I would expect the stock price to migrate towards 100% value of the NPV of the project. This would put the stock price at $2.31 ( $2.16B x 99% / 931.4M fully diluted shares) as the mine development develops.

I'm not pumping it, not saying the stock will jump next week, next month or whenever, only commenting that if it was in the same stage as LAC is right now I would expect a share price of $2.31.  We are not there right now, and that is self evident.

Almost a billion shares, I think I would think about a consolidation down the road. This is like the austrailian miner stocks billions of shares trading at 15 cents or so. seems ridiculous.

If and when NMX produces positive cash flow, I hope they buy back some of that streaming deal if possible.  I hope they develop another mine from the cash flow becuase it is my understanding that is how a mining stock's share price really starts going up as there is no longer stock dilution issues, and as hinted earlier this month I hope years down the road, with the positive cash flow that NMX expands the processing plant (stage 3), but for all this to happen they have to get profitable to begin with.

Any way again in comparison with LAC - NMX immediate ceiling is $1.07.... with the potential to slowly migrate towards LAC current trading value which for NMX would be about $2.31.




 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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