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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum ProMIS Neurosciences Inc PMN

ProMIS Neurosciences Inc. is a development stage biotechnology company. The Company is focused on generating and developing antibody therapeutics selectively targeting toxic misfolded proteins in neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer’s disease (AD), amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) and multiple system atrophy (MSA), an alpha-synucleinopathy. Its proprietary target discovery engine... see more

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Post by M101 on Feb 19, 2022 5:52pm

class war

Why does Promis promote the idea that 310 is in the same class as aducanumab?

Aducanumab was not designed for the job, rather it was a natural molecule discovered to have some benefit in one human population. It doesn't bind to an epitope constrained by misfolding, like PMN 310s HHQK, rather it gloms onto fibrils, soluble or not, and has some affinity for oligomers correlating negatively with size i.e., not to monomers and not significantly to dimers. So while PMN 310 is a genuine ABO-specific drug, aducanumab is really a plaque drug rebranded from ACH for the ABO hypothesis.

Is there so much overlap on oligomers that Promis can’t credibly dump the class adjective?  Not to me, it looks like orders of magnitude difference in useful (LMW oligomer) binding once adcuanumab’s preferential binding to HMW oligomers plus toxicity arising from fibril binding binding are considered.

Cashman et al have written excellent papers highlighting the differences, but those are for peer review not financial markets so they don’t make any attempt to quantify how much better PMN could perform than the competition in the real world. Our consultant management has then compounded the marketing differentiation problem with their “best in class” mantra.

Aducanumab’s binding characteristics are complex and still being defined as the drug came first and the explanation later, opposite PMN’s synthetic approach. A new paper on aducanumab’s binding is coming out Feb 24 and one from 2020 is not yet available free, but we still have the one from 2018 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5913127/ which would have been a reference for Cashman et al in thier 2019 paper available on our website. So there is not a lot of mystery to aducanumab’s failure, the mystery is our marketing.

Comment by azzymaa on Feb 19, 2022 7:52pm
M101, great points but why doesn't pmn just get bought out by a bigger company if pmn310 is so valuable? The company is only worth a meager 60 million cad. i personnaly believe we will never have a full working alz solution. there are much larger companies who will eat us alive. on a side a note I do own biogen but made a mistake and when they were at a all time high last year. 
Comment by Gbathat on Feb 19, 2022 8:24pm
Probably because the bigger companies are not offering what PMN wants, yet.  Nobody bought out Acumen yet either, and look at their market cap- $240M USD. PMN's market cap is only $45M USD right now... so we are looking at a potential 6-bagger even if we just get to where Acumen is currently, which is not too far ahead of us... maybe 1 year. The Boston group is providing the necessary ...more  
Comment by M101 on Feb 22, 2022 12:11pm
And everyone is building in-house AI platforms so until PMN has its first product who's going to fork out the billion(s) that it's worth?  I suspect that until then only individual drug licence and JV deals are being shopped. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7577280/
Comment by M101 on Feb 19, 2022 10:00pm
It's a great question with many possible answers. Consider Moderna, the mrna vaccine tech wasn't that valuable until it was. Consider Biogen, they had an in-house strategy and careers depended upon it. Consider Gene and Elliot, they planned for a quick-out but didn't have the connections or street cred to pull it off. Consider the history of public microcap pharmas, there aren' ...more  
Comment by azzymaa on Feb 20, 2022 7:03pm
Thanks m101 for your insight, appreciate all your help
Comment by M101 on Feb 21, 2022 11:55am
Let's not confuse insight with opinion. Your question got me to browse some of the plentiful pundit opinions on pharma M&A trends, but I came away learning nothing except that too much money chasing limited opportunities leads to share buybacks rather than pipeline building.  And given that I hope our directors will shoot for the moon when the first offer finally drops and settle for ...more  
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