RE:Special div is horrible horrible horrible idea. Do aI think a Dutch auction for 1 billion is an excellent idea. Whether we like the idea of a special dividend or not I don;t think we will be the ones deciding it...management will. And historically when they have done well like in 2018 they paid a special dividend so I guess we will just need to wait & see. In one of the articles posted it sounds like management won't make an announcement about buy backs or special dividens until Sept.