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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Stelco Holdings Inc STZHF


Primary Symbol: T.STLC

Stelco Holdings Inc. is a Canada-based integrated and independent steelmaker with advanced integrated steelmaking facilities in North America. The Company is engaged in the production and sale of steel products. The Company produces flat-rolled value-added steels, including coated, cold-rolled, and hot-rolled steel products, as well as pig iron and metallurgical coke. It also provides gauge... see more

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Stelco Holdings Inc > Excessive Optimism
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Post by Jasonuw on Sep 25, 2021 3:36pm

Excessive Optimism

A quick post about Stelco. I have seen some accusations about Short Selling and market manipulation causing the stock to go down. While any stock may be sold short at any time, we are looking at a short interest of less than 2%. More likely reason is that Management stated they will ride the curve for HRC prices and would not hedge. All stocks are priced on future expectations. Look at West Fraser, if it was priced on the past 12 months' performance at its historical P/E ratio, it would be $300 and not 100. But we need to look past the recent supply chain issues and demand spike giving short time record profits and at the core business and future expectations. Stelco is operating in an industry why the companies are expanding supply. What we have seen is that while September and October are only 1 and 2% off the HRC highs, it looks like Q1 has dropped by 20% in the past two weeks. And we know that since MGMT will not hedge, this is straight revenue deterioration that will go to the bottom line. And this will impact Net Income by much more than 20%. It could have cut Q1 Net Income by 50% as Stelco does not breakeven until $750/ton. Last time we saw Q1 HRC prices this low was in May and June. The stock was trading at the same price then. Yes prices are still high but with them falling 20% in Q1 and Q2 just within the past two weeks, would anyone wager that they won't go any lower? BTW the other companies have also been hit - not to the same extent but they are also down 15-20%. The advantage they have is they are mostly US-based. Any instrastructure bill will first allocate money to US companies before opening it up to Canadian companies.
Comment by marsman1 on Sep 25, 2021 4:42pm
You make some valid points  Jasonuw , but , I think your numbers are a little off. Sounds like maybe you are in a short position which is OK , thats what makes a market. That being said , the stock will react to the price of steel , especially in the short term , but the real key to understanding Stelco is knowing the demand side of the equation , and how management reacts to that demand. for ...more  
Comment by Jasonuw on Sep 25, 2021 5:38pm
This is exactly my point lol. Just because I had a different view doesn't mean I am short. I recently added to my position and I hold over 20K shares currently The optimism is fine but the delusion about short sellers and conspiracies just dilutes any positive news because it is just buried within the rest of the garbage that is posted here. And this is a commodity and macro play, mgmt actions ...more  
Comment by extremerisk on Sep 25, 2021 5:40pm
Based on last published report their breakeven is $685 cdn or $534USD.    Lots of profit potential here based on current future prices.  I think key is with pandemic and artificially low rates has the federal reserve set the table for higher inflation.  I think they have which means all commodities will appreciate including steel. Demand strong as lots of businesses shut down ...more  
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