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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Air Canada T.AC

Alternate Symbol(s):  ACDVF

Air Canada is an airline company. The Company is a provider of scheduled passenger services in the Canadian market, the Canada-United States (U.S.) transborder market and the international market to and from Canada. It provides scheduled service directly to more than 180 airports in Canada, the United States and internationally on six continents. The Company’s Aeroplan program is Canada's... see more

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Air Canada > Buying customers
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Post by lb1temporary on Aug 02, 2020 5:55am

Buying customers

Thursday, my son and 2 friends, bought Air Canada tickets.

Direct 14 days round trip tickets Montreal-Tokyo (Narita) for may 2021. Ticket are cancellables for any reason and he will receive a credit in exchange.

He pays 484 C$ (taxes and fees included) and he received 20 000 miles in bonus, (almost a North American round trip free).

He watched the prices for more than a month and he took advantage of special prices.

I watched this morning and the same flights are at 691 $. Not sure that at that prices, once fees and taxes excluded, there’s enough money to pay the fuel.

Air Canada desesperately needs customers and it makes big investments to grab reservations and bring back confidence in air travel.
Comment by fraudhunter on Aug 02, 2020 1:00pm
Modern booking systems have very intelligent algorithmic and AI like abilities that looks within the business, and also right across the industry, across other networks in developing moment by moment pricing. Dynamic pricing that will turn on a dime, as it works on its own agenda. As a secondary comment, businesses like Transat would not have survived even in the good times because they failed to ...more  
Comment by filoux004 on Aug 02, 2020 2:06pm
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Comment by lb1temporary on Aug 02, 2020 3:15pm
You always explain your points and allow the discussion to move forward, so, even if I disagree sometimes with you, I will respond respecfully to your post:  1- Modern booking systems have very intelligent algorithmic and AI like abilities that looks within the business, and also right across the industry, across other networks in developing moment by moment pricing. Dynamic pricing that ...more  
Comment by fraudhunter on Aug 03, 2020 12:29am
Your misunderstanding is acute. Booking systems will keep adjusting pricing throughout the ‘long period’. May 2921 is a good ways away.  And to say that CleanCare+ and other AP promotions aren’t working.. because AC gave a 80% off yoy guidance tells me that either you are genuinely unaware, or that the posts that you and one of your cohorts ‘logic’ writes are simply self serving. AC gave ...more  
Comment by fraudhunter on Aug 03, 2020 12:30am
May 2021 will do :))))))
Comment by Seahawk001 on Aug 03, 2020 5:43am
It may or may not be the perfect entry point but regardless of when you enter you'll be rewarded from this point forward, that's kind of a sleep at night stock I enjoy holding :) 
Comment by lb1temporary on Aug 03, 2020 6:55am
Booking system is ajusting pricing over a long period, and a flight is booked with a wide range of prices. Fine. But when this system makes an offer largely under the costs that means something. Its not the result of a brillant strategy. its the result of a rought market. The 80% cut for the Q3 could be only strategic ?  I agree that there's a strategic message to the gouvernment but the ...more  
Comment by fraudhunter on Aug 03, 2020 2:58pm
Well, of course the facts are true. 80% yoy decline, but depending on Domestic Only means that the uptake from AEROPLAN and CleanCare+ is working. Since you use examples of your son buying a ticket, let me use my personal example. Though I am an AEROPLAN member since 1993, over the years my points from business travel have accumulated to very large numbers. Until last year, every time I would try ...more  
Comment by thesheet on Aug 04, 2020 8:45am
i have a story about aeroplan. when i lived in Mexico, the retired ex-pats gave me an earful when i told them i worked for air canada,(nevermind it was Air Ontario that i worked for). one person tried to use aeroplan. He called them on one phone and called an AC agent-friend on the other. The AP agent said the only way to get from Toronto to Mexico is to fly to Chicago, OVERNIGHT, then take ...more  
Comment by filoux004 on Aug 04, 2020 9:03am
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Comment by JetTechYYZ on Aug 03, 2020 11:11am
I have heard of layoff recalls of Maintenance personnel in August to support reactivating stored aircraft.
Comment by filoux004 on Aug 03, 2020 11:17am
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Comment by TheGrapeOne on Jun 29, 2021 1:26pm
Case in point this guy has been playing these games for years lol   He is either paid to post or is holding bags of $50 shares and htis is all he can think of to try and get someof his cash back 24/7 pump
Comment by allbeefhooked on Aug 03, 2020 10:22am
I watched this morning and the same flights are at 691 $. Not sure that at that prices, once fees and taxes excluded, there’s enough money to pay the fuel. Air Canada desesperately needs customers and it makes big investments to grab reservations and bring back confidence in air travel.    IB1,    In June 2015 I booked my son Air Canada Toronto to Narita.  I booked about ...more  
Comment by lb1temporary on Aug 04, 2020 1:20pm
I guess the question for you is, are you really basing your decision to buy Air Canada shares on seat sales prices???    Easy question. Sure, I will not base my decision on seat sales price. I based my decision on perspectives backed by multiple facts, good and\or bad. The 691 $ I mentioned and that you highlighted is low but it’s the ‘’historic’’ low price offered by airlines for a ...more  
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