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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Air Canada T.AC

Alternate Symbol(s):  ACDVF

Air Canada is an airline company. The Company is a provider of scheduled passenger services in the Canadian market, the Canada-United States (U.S.) transborder market and the international market to and from Canada. It provides scheduled service directly to more than 180 airports in Canada, the United States and internationally on six continents. The Company’s Aeroplan program is Canada's... see more

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Air Canada > Jeffries and AC's FCF over next few years
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Post by Rouge10 on Jun 16, 2024 11:35pm

Jeffries and AC's FCF over next few years

Someones mentioned in one of the posts that Jeffries assumed AC will produce $150M FCF from 2024-2026. Q1 2024 produced $1.1B FCF already and Q2 will likely produce additional $1.0B FCF. As per Jeffries, from Q2 '24 to 2026, AC can have negative $850M FCF. Perhaps Jeffries assumed a huge increase in pilots salary for this calculation (pun intended). Some analysts probably always see glass half full.


Even if we use AC projected capex (which is at published aircraft price) and Cash Flow From Operations same as 2023 till 2026, AC will produce $3B FCF for 3 years and that will take leverage ratio to almost 0. This includes nominal/practical cost increase in pilot salary.

I had talked about Capex spend and FCF till 2027 in an earlier post. Click on the link below to read my views on the spend. AC can expect ~$6B FCF from 2024-2026 and prepayments in 2024 will smoothen FCF over 3 years to $2.0B each year. CFO had alluded to prepayments and consistent FCF over next years (including capex years) in his recent calls.

https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard?symbol=t.ac&postid=35946378

Capex forecast also depends on OEM’s capacity to produce. It seems like OEMs (esp Boeing) won’t be able to meet delivery dates, and thus pushing out the 2025/26 deliveries to 2027/28.  This means the peak 2026 capex spend will be smoothened over the following year(s).

Well, once pilots negotiations are behind us, AC will give updated guidance. AC is a FCF generation machine and at sometime that cash will start making its way towards investors. :)
Comment by Tempo1 on Jun 17, 2024 8:27am
Rouge I send you a message . Check your inbox.
Comment by givemeabreak1 on Jun 17, 2024 3:24pm
I am not to sure I would call AC a FCF generating machine and I would want to put and Asterick beside FCF if you do not put it in perspection...The largest component of AC's FCF is from advanced ticket sales.    The amounts received by AC must be returned at some future date in the form of services ie flights.  I like to call FCF in these instances unearned income.  ...more  
Comment by Veecee1 on Jun 17, 2024 5:40pm
Lmao, Robthenob,s older brother gimmeablow,* Jefferies recruiting another one from the troll shop
Comment by givemeabreak1 on Jun 18, 2024 12:33am
Veecee the numbers are not mine fool they are Air Canada's which is why the share price is not the $100 or $150 Rouge has been calling for years.  He still does not understand the business.  
Comment by Veecee1 on Jun 18, 2024 6:56am
Lmao By saying  Rouge10 doesn't understand the business just proves to everyone your a complete idiot  and has no credibility on this board. Rouge has been precise on his earnings estimates and FCF projections, the market will soon have to realize the  ridiculous cheap valuation, Nice try go back to the drawing board and come up with a real argument on FCF with numbers and ...more  
Comment by givemeabreak1 on Jun 18, 2024 3:43pm
Veecee Of course he has been precise on his earnings estimate as they are not estimates but rather cut and paste of AC Financial Reports and MD & A.  His share price estimates have been wrong for 5 years.  He has been calling for a share valuation of $100 to $150 for that long.  Notice his face was rouge ie so embarassed he stop posting that nonsense.....................
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