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[Krumy77]

still alot of questions for me. All remaining legacy patents are veing sold, or substantially all of them......what is the mean difference? Which ones were kept ,......and without a licensing business,.....how will the remaining patents,....that were potentially not included, be monetized? For this simple reason that this is all so opaque to me,.....I think there is a good chance tgere is still more ti the settlement/patent saga. Maybe not a great chance, but a good chance.

[Digby8]

Th FB/Meta settlement is still not addressed. This could be bigger than the announced patent sale.

[Krumy77]

could be indeed. The patents involved in the litigation with facebook were obviously legacy messaging/mobile and were surely heavily scrutinized reagardless of the final outcome regarding whether or not they were included in the deal with catapult. .....im leaning that tgey were not because I believe FB/Whatsapp would prefer to own them post settlement as opposed to licensing. I also think a

[Digby8]

I agree. IMO, Meta needs the patents. The purchase price may include a part of the "settlement" amount to minimize the damage to Meta's reputation. 

[Hedgetrimmer]

Although there seems to be many, I found this legal definition of substantially all.... The assets will be considered all or substantially all of a corporation's assets if they are quantatively necessary to the corporation. This means that substantially all of a corporation's assets were not sold if it: Retains other significant assets

[Hedgetrimmer]

Forgot to add my take. If the 35000 patents were substantially all, then there shouldn't be 3000+ unaccounted for. Could it be those 3000 were not there to sell? IOW they were already gone. Probably wrong but wishful thinking nonetheless. 

[cabbieJBJ]

My understanding is that there 38,000 patents and approximately 30,000 go with the sale.

[Hedgetrimmer]

Just going from what I saw yesterday. I guess no one other than parties involved know the number. If I look at this part of legal meaning: This means that substantially all of a corporation's assets were not sold if it: Retains other significant assets. To me it sounds like it's saying if you have retained other significant assets then you cannot claim 'Substantially All'

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