Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Past predictions

[flyman12]

Il croit que la famille Beaudoin-Bombardier pourrait, par exemple, faire la mme chose qu’elle a fait pour BRP avec Bain Capital et la Caisse de dpt et placement en 2003. « Bombardier pourrait peut-tre mieux performer en tant qu’entreprise prive. Les firmes prives d’investissement sont parfois trs efficaces pour donner une entreprise le temps dont elle a besoin pour se redresser », dit-il.

Just what I have been predicting for quite some time now.

Expect the family to take thisoption very soon . We'll be lucky to get offered $1.50 per share.

[Shamhorish]

can any one explaine the meaning and why "Les firmes prives d’investissement sont parfois trs efficaces pour donner une entreprise le temps dont elle a besoin pour se redresser " why a private company can be more effcient and fix its finances better than if company is private

[Shamhorish]

flyman "Expect the family to take thisoption very soon . We'll be lucky to get offered $1.50 per share." believe it or not, at cdn$ 1.50 i will be loosing 54%  but at this point, i will take it the sooner the better i have been living this bbd nightmare for too long let them take it private and fininish this unending delima

[Shamhorish]

by the way, if Family made a take over bid today while bbd.b trading around cdn$0.59 the offer will be arround +20-30%  i.e = 0.70 -.0.80 , not $1.50 at cdn$ 1.50 they will be paying premium of 254% !!!

[lb1temporary]

I don't want to be negative but the bigest actual problem is confidence. The market had a reserved reaction to the Q4 results and the 400 M$ cost cutting plan.  It's a show me story. The Bombardier family has zero credibility in the market after: the pre 2015 accumulation of problems at Bombardier. the failed attemps to fix them with Bellemare (5 years of bad surprises)

[Shamhorish]

"How the suppliers, creditors, bankers and bondholders could gain confidence if they take BBD private ?"????? it seems that no one care, hypocracy, lies, mise leading is a king in most business activity today, this is how business is done now if they take it private this company will be making money in two years then they will re list it on tsx for about 7$  per share

[Zimmee1]

......If they relist the stock at this proposal price but others things will happen as the volume will be less: the number of shares that a shareholder holds? Could be a tricky process?

[bicente]

you are correct and I would to remind everyone that the shareholders' value was last on the bomber to do list ... this turnaround took longer than expected and costed much more than anyone expected .Massive patchwork was done and assets were sold/given for much less than was anticipated therrfore we are where we are .. I think we will turn over a new leaf when the LTdebt repayment plan is laid

[PabloLafortune]

Only 1 problem remains really: the debt and interest paid on it. All the money losers are gone, business jet can make money I think. Of course because of the infamously lousy past 5 years, the market has little confidence in the company and while some investors can see light at the end of the tunnel (albeit faint), most investors don't - they need to see results. That will take a few good

[Shamhorish]

if bbd offered a 1billion dollar bond, the % of iterest offered is decided by??? bbd?? and bbd credit rating??? can bbd offer 1.50 billion bond at 4- 4.5% , would it attractive to who??

[Zimmee1]

Usually the bank director where Bombardier has a current and a loan account, it might be Royal Bank, CIBC, BOM or NSB etc.? Another point that the bank manager will look for BBd.B his heavy debts and collateral, his total assets, his 2020 balance sheet, his clients list, propects' products buyers, his credibility, a list of shareholders and the board of directors, his past financial and

[Zimmee1]

For a 10 years period at this low interest rate it might not be attractive for the bankers. I heard recently that the interest rate will likelly go up again this year or 2022. Following this company past it may not happen to borrow this 1.5B ($)? Because of the struggling past that she have unfortunately.

[BBDB859]

Hey Pablo what's a qb artist?. BTW you've got mail

[Shamhorish]

yes, as you said, all monet loosind divisions are gone but do not foget that about 50% or more of yealy lose was due to high paid yearly interest of about 700 million $ if not more up to this moment bbd still pay that huge some of money what can management do about it, !!!! can they bring paid yearly interest to 50% of current value i.e around 350 million!!!!!!!!!!!????? how will they do it??

[firstworld]

Honda jet, Airbus, Textron will all ki every segment of the biz jet business except 3rd world sales financed with tax doses with 5% tavares to Khan Island hahaha. Canada looks like 1980s Soviet Union who paid countries in Afghan narcotics to buy 3rd rate jets hahaha.

[Jim99999]

Jeez dude, take a chill pill. It ain't that complicated. Assuming BBD gets a little more cash from Alstom, sells a little real estate, or maybe uses a little from the $1.8B cash on hand, then they have about $3B to put toward debt. If they pay off the most expensive $3B, (namely the $1.02B @ 8.75% due this year, and the $2B @ 7.875% due 2027), then they reduce their annual interest expense

[Zimmee1]

Following your comment if BBd.B offers this price such $0.70 to $0.80 I will assume the transaction will be in US ($)?

[Shamhorish]

IF BBD.B TRADING AT CDN $ (0.58-0.59 )  ADD A PREMIUM OF 15-30%  0.59 + 30% X 0.59 = 0.59 + 0.177 = 0.767 CANADIAN $

[BBDB859]

If the Family wants to take this private???? My only question is? Why are these shorts keeping the share price down for only a penny a day trades. Can't they see the whole picture. They own hundreds of million shares by shorting this for the last 3 years. Why don't they hold on to their shares right now, and LET THIS SHARE PRICE CLIMB. The Family will have to pay the market price to

[Shamhorish]

let us be a bit reasonable and realistic a bit bbd.b at cdn $ 30 or $15.0 or 7.0 will the company is loosing money and having huge debt that can not be serviced by its income is just impossible and not logical and beside that who knows who is behid shorters, who knows!! ok we know media, glob and mail are serving the thomson family goal of causing damage to bbd but also who knows, may be by

[Carpediem01]

Shamorish, selon toi , la famille ayant un plan machaveilique , ont developpe la c sries, soumissionne trop bas pour les contrats de train, pris de mauvaises decisions durant des annee , etc... et tout ca, dans le but de sortir du financement publique en poussant le prix de l action au plus bas ?  Une vrai logique de clown!

[momocau]

Shamhorish, For what you publicize so much silliness, it's very good that the meeting is Thursday March 4th and BBD will tell us where we are. and what they will do. You try to scare the investors ((for what?)) You should stop publishing anything and do like us and wait for the meeting. Take your pill and relax. Good luck to everyone.

[Shamhorish]

Carp, no je jamais dit ca je dit que en realite on sait rein, je toujour dit que le development de C series etc etait une etape positive et montre que la famille travail fort pour allez en avant, et que boeing, Pratt&W, Airbus, gov canadian, gov. quebec, IQ, CDPQ on tous travailler pour que le C series tomp a l'eau et que la guerre contre la famille et que leGov canadienne insiste que la

[Guillaume]

Non, tout ca, c est de la faute des espions et des saboteurs envoys par la France et les Etats unis. Et du covid, invent pour soumettre la population mondiale! Mais Chut! C'est dangeureux d'en parler! :)

[Shamhorish]

Guillaume , *****, d'accord avec toi