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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  BDRAF | BDRBF | T.BBD.B | T.BBD.PR.B | T.BBD.PR.C | T.BBD.PR.D | BDRPF | BOMBF | BDRXF

Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It... see more

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Bombardier Inc. > 2 posaible scenarios
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Post by Lukegermany on Sep 25, 2023 3:46pm

2 posaible scenarios

1.
- They dont meet the deliveried and burn mote Cashflow in q3 as expected
- there is no big order coming 
- Person is delayed
- orders are low

Or 
2. Someone will with all Power come cheap in before they start to Blow up every estimate

Look they Want make NEARLY  800 FCF in Q3+q4..they will end up at nearly 2 billion cash..so 800 million can go to pay debt..
When they realy get a 4-5 billion order they will get how much as a Front pay? 30% 40% 50 %..this will bring an big Chuck FCF 30% will bring another 1.2-1.5 billion..from what they can surely Adress 700-800 million additional to pay debt..thats 1.5 billion debt payment.. how much we have now? 5.6? After that we would have only 4.1 billion with 1.5 ebitda? And 6% from 1.5 less interest Patient.. its another 85 million more cash per year. I cannot believe thats point 1 is possible after that good work in the past 2 years.

This have to come to an end in the next 6 weeks..really hope for 15-17.octobre. where is rumor there must be something
Comment by Shamhorish on Sep 25, 2023 3:55pm
NO  NO  NO  NO EVEN IF BBD GETS AN ORDER OF 4-5 BILLIONS that will be in10 to 15 years if all options are exercised so any big order will be 15 -20-25 jets AND OPTIONS FOR 10 OR SO MORE PER YEAR  so down payment will be on what is ordered not on options too
Comment by Lukegermany on Sep 26, 2023 5:31am
hey Sham...sorry 5 Billion for 10 years would be a joke...500 Million order per year is not enough to be notable. textron get 30 Billion for 15 year with all options... the bomber need a 5 billion order without options now or a 30 billion for 10 years with some options..everything else is not enough imho I read somewhere that an option has to be paid with 10% ...but i dont know it exactly.
Comment by clubhouse19 on Sep 25, 2023 5:03pm
Shorts don't really need a reason to short when the stock is being ignored by investors and the rules are set up as they are.   The reasons you are alleging are much more conspiracy than really fact and at the same time supplyin fodder to the shorts. In reality I don't care  which ever way it goes in the short term as I have been playing  this very short term for quite a ...more  
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