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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  BDRAF | BDRBF | T.BBD.B | BOMBF | T.BBD.P.B | T.BBD.P.C | T.BBD.P.D | BDRPF | BDRXF

Bombardier Inc. is focused on designing, manufacturing, and servicing business jets. The Company has a fleet of approximately 5,000 aircraft in service with a wide variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments, and private individuals. The Company designs, develops, manufactures and markets two families of business jets (Challenger and Global... see more

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Bombardier Inc. > Another great day as a BBD shareholder
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Post by Nordico on Feb 27, 2024 1:53pm

Another great day as a BBD shareholder

But god forbid the company use a small portion of its over half-billion annual profit to buy and cancel some of its shares being shorted/traded on the open market for absolute joke prices. Hell, even a company like Givex does substantial buybacks for cancellation, to the intended future benefit of shareholders:

Givex normal course issuer bid announcement

"Outside of these pre-determined blackout periods, Shares will be purchased at the discretion of senior management of the Company. 

The Company believes that the Shares may from time-to-time trade in a price range that does not adequately reflect the value of the Shares in relation to the Company's activities and future prospects. As a result, the Company believes that the purchase of Shares, from to time, would be an appropriate use of corporate funds in light of potential benefits to remaining shareholders."



Comment by stock4life48 on Feb 27, 2024 5:05pm
...so they can richly reward executives with stock options at an ~80% discount while shareholders continue to suffer?
Comment by Nordico on Feb 27, 2024 7:54pm
What? I want them to do additional buybacks 'for cancellation', which does not mean for compensation or incentive plans.  They already did 600k for compensation/incentive under the current standard NCIB.
Comment by stock4life48 on Feb 27, 2024 9:15pm
Did they actually cancel the shares they bought back late last year?  I'm honestly asking I say zero bonuses and/or stock options for management until shareholders start to see rewards which to me is a minumum new 52 week high, ie $75 minimum.  shareholders are suffering and they don't seem to care
Comment by Nordico on Feb 27, 2024 11:23pm
No, none of the 600k purchased for the 2023 NCIB were for cancellation; they were all for employee incentive/compensation.
Comment by clubhouse19 on Feb 28, 2024 12:04am
No they are not canceled but that are in treasury and held until options are exercised . In the meantime the bomber holds them . And btw...with all the share counterfeiting that goes on...does it really matter whether buying a few more shares would make any difference.   Frustration because your price target is not within your time-line does absolutely nothing on how EM runs the business. His ...more  
Comment by Transit77 on Feb 28, 2024 7:36am
I have to ask........do you have any optimism on this companies future? You seem to refute any logic that comes your way. What exactly do you expect? Do you work for their forum/pr team. Makes no sense how your constantly defending bombardiers iniquitous leadership team that hasn't shown us the big sales development on either the fleet front or military front. I mean what do you believe is ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Feb 28, 2024 7:50am
Maybe you can find a way to get rid of 39% of the trading volume which is of the shorting variety as it is systemic. You also fail to disclose where they missed their objective as they promised not to confuse this objective with yours.   I think you have it backwards.
Comment by MyNameIsNobody on Feb 28, 2024 8:03am
You also do seem to refute any logic, but in your case it's about the good results management keep on delivering You keep asking for big sales but do not seem to take into account the fact that the sales team still sell enough to keep the book to bill ration at 1 for the year, while having increased deliveries. None of us can explain the behavior of the share price, why do you waste time ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Feb 28, 2024 9:29am
You are asking if i have optimism LMAO.. Coming from a chronic whiner...about the SP...that is some question ?
Comment by Transit77 on Feb 28, 2024 11:54am
Ok so then share what you believe are near term catalysts that can help stop this descent into the abyss???? What are your thoughts to stop this free fall? Surely other than critiquing our responses you can offer up some solutions? But of course trolling is far easier. Much like gossip over dinner. Offer up your optimism or plan needed for success and worry less about my responses that interpret ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Feb 28, 2024 12:22pm
if you think you need a catalyst so that it reaches your short term goals within your short term time lines ...you are in the wrong stock. I am not playing this long term at this stage  so i made a concious decision to trade it. That does not take away from the fact that I believe that in a pure business sense, EM and company are making the right decisions. I just don't play the hypocrite ...more  
Comment by stock4life48 on Feb 28, 2024 2:56pm
how EM runs the business is a direct reflection of the share price.  If shareholders aren't getting rewarded, executives shouldn't be getting any bonuses or stock options.  Its a huge incentive for them to perform, promote the company and do everything they can to get the share price higer
Comment by Nordico on Feb 28, 2024 3:43pm
You're probably aware you're not going to convince the company to change its executive compensation program (no comment on whether that would help anything). What does have a shot is enough frustrated shareholders convincing management and the BoD to allocate an extra $30 - $50 million CAD to buybacks for cancellation this year, at management's discretion (e.g., while the stock trades ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Feb 27, 2024 11:54pm
Maybe if you are so adamant about the refusal of any bonuses you should at least supply us a list of all the objectives they have not achieved to back up your proposal to management.   BTW they can only be responsible for what they have control of...unless you think they have control of the market and share price also.    Maybe they should invent some bogus pros also with fake sales ...more  
Comment by stock4life48 on Feb 28, 2024 3:01pm
what do you care you admitted you are a swing trader and aren't here for the long term just because I hate Trudeau for example doesn't mean I want the job.  pretty idiotic logic there.  Grab some one from another aerospace company with proven leadership and with a share price that continues to reward shareholders which are your bosses anyway go back to swing trading your few ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Feb 28, 2024 4:45pm
Whineforlife Keep up the whining. It will all make it better.  You're pathetic
Comment by Transit77 on Feb 28, 2024 7:53pm
All you day traders say you make top dollar and play the swings. Seem to only talk about your winnings never the many losses to get there. We whine because we don't like actions that don't affirm progress. It's very healthy. You should join in. 
Comment by BBDB859 on Feb 28, 2024 10:10pm
Hey Transit. Your whining is not a problem, IF it's about a real affirmation of non-progress of this Management. But you implying that there is no real progress from this management  as far as the company goes. Then I'm sorry to say, that you're out to LUNCH. Which just simply tells me that, you have no idea what you're talking about, when it comes to this company. I ...more  
Comment by Transit77 on Feb 29, 2024 8:50am
My cost is well below todays current SP. They have cleaned things up surely but are not delivering on the sales front is all I am saying. I've not critiqued anything else. My date stays firm I'm out January 2026. Disappointed only with sales performance. I've said this before $20 billion plus backlog will make LTD look very small. With Pearson online and a solid military and fleet ...more  
Comment by BBDB859 on Feb 29, 2024 9:33am
I'm not being facecious here. You're entitled to your opinions. Yet your opinions and mine, will not affect this managements directions, and operational knowhow. While you or I, are just outsiders, that have hindsight to critique their performance, they have the more daunting task of dealing with their competition in realtime. My point here is, that management makes their decisions ...more  
Comment by trademorestock on Feb 28, 2024 11:45pm
Hey clubhouse sandwich no one cares about day traders or swing traders, they aren't investors.   Get off this forum, it's for real investors
Comment by clubhouse19 on Feb 29, 2024 12:21am
Then real investors should not be intimidated as you seem to be.     Looks like you consider whiners in vectors.. like yourself?
Comment by Transit77 on Feb 29, 2024 8:55am
Real investors stay long term. Don't refute everyone's ideas and or opinions and share insight into how and what can be done for future progress. As for day traders like you rent a cheap motel by a casino because that's all you do daily is gamble. We as long term investors are interested in long term success and incremental improvements. Unlike you and your group of bandits trying to ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Feb 29, 2024 10:36am
I didn't  know chronic whining was being an investor. I have always known that if you didn't trust or believe that the leadership that you should move on and sell. I wonder how many times you sent your concerns directly to management other than your snot nosed whining on this board calling it an opinion. Whining is not an opinion at least not a credible one but more of a frustrated ...more  
Comment by stock4life48 on Feb 29, 2024 11:28am
club, why are you even hear, to pump and dump the stock as you trade your little bit of shares?  No one cares what day traders think.
Comment by clubhouse19 on Feb 29, 2024 1:27pm
That's  where you are wrong ... Knowing what the market acts does not mean I don't believe in the company.   I have shown this time and time again even when I used to hold but never whined as you chronically do. As you have the right to incessantly whine I also have the right to do as I do. Other than that you can be my quest and continue your incessant boorish whining somehow ...more  
Comment by stock4life48 on Feb 29, 2024 1:40pm
ok, I'll listen.  post exactly when you make your buys and sells as a day/swing trader and how many shares you are trading.  No monday morning quarterbacking, saying you bought yesterday at x, because anyone can say that
Comment by clubhouse19 on Feb 29, 2024 2:04pm
You really are out to lunch and ignorant to boot.     The only thing that is proven here or needs to be proven is that you are a chronic incessant whiner and down up so.  I don't  have to prove anything else you fool.
Comment by stock4life48 on Feb 29, 2024 2:55pm
so I call BS that you swing/day trade.  full of.....  bye
Comment by clubhouse19 on Feb 29, 2024 3:46pm
You fool...you can't even read...how may times have I admitted I traded this for quite some time now.    Get back to the corner wearing your dunse cone hat.    
Comment by stock4life48 on Feb 29, 2024 7:12pm
Club I have put you on ignore, that is what bye means.  You won't post proof you are actually swing/day trading and threfore I consider you a troll.  All you post is drivel like that Johnney guy, nothing of any value.  BYE!
Comment by clubhouse19 on Feb 29, 2024 7:34pm
I feel privileged as you still are an ignorant goof. The only thing you've ever posted is WHINE and while I traded I made infinitely more positive informative  contributions than you ever did or will do.
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