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The investment objectives for the Preferred Shares are to provide their holders with fixed cumulative preferential monthly cash distributions in the amount of $0.05 per Preferred Share ($0.60 per annum or 6.0% per annum on the issue price of $10.00 per Preferred Share) until November 30, 2023 (the Maturity Date) and to return the original issue price of $10.00 to holders on the Maturity Date. The Company will invest on an approximately equally-weighted basis in Portfolio Shares of the following publicly traded Canadian banks: Bank of Montreal; Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce; National Bank of Canada; Royal Bank of Canada; The Bank of Nova Scotia; and The Toronto-Dominion Bank. The Portfolio will generally be rebalanced on a quarterly basis, starting on September 30, 2020, so that as soon as practicable after each calendar quarter the Portfolio Shares will be held on an approximately equal weight basis.


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Post by tony0911on Jun 22, 2009 10:51pm
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Pescod Late Edition

Pescod Late Edition

AN INTERVIEW WITH ABBY BADWI, 

PRESIDENT and CEO OF BANKERS PETROLEUM 

(As of June 12, 2009) 

 

We are just recently back from a tour of Bankers Petro- 

leum’s enormous holdings in Albania.   While there, we did 

this interview with company President Abby Badwi. 

 

David Pescod: Abby Badwi, with your success with Rally 

Energy, it looks like you are trying to do the same thing here 

in Albania.  You are putting together an amazing team, 

bringing in new technology into an area that has already got 

some reserves.  But first of all, people have conceptions 

about Albania.  What do you think of the country and its po- 

tential? 

 

Abby Badwi:  Albania and Patos were a fantastic surprise 

for me.  When I came over here I saw not only the size of the 

field, but the number of people that were involved in the pro- 

ject and how old the oil industry was in Albania and how 

they developed this large asset with 2400 wells that have 

been drilled over a 50-year period.  People are educated, 

industrious, they work hard and it was very easy for us to 

grow our operation here.  Prior to my arrival (Bankers has 

been here since 2004) they had an excellent team of nation- 

als and expatriates.  So as I say, it was easy for me to come 

and fill in and try to build the company beyond what it had 

already achieved. 

 

DP:  You must have concepts about Albania and what you 

see for the country and interestingly enough, your history.  

Rally was a very successful company you built and sold, 

and you are also part Egyptian, but you’ve also got your 

grandfather who was Albanian. 

 

AB:  That is correct.  My grandfather on my mother’s side 

was Albanian.  He did fight in the Turkish Army during the 

First World War and then immigrated to Egypt and that’s 

how I got my Albanian heritage. I feel that I am part of this 

community.  It is a Mediterranean culture and that’s where I 

grew up in Alexandria on the Mediterranean Coast of Egypt.  

My biggest achievement was in Rally Energy and it was 

something that I was very proud of and coming to Albania to 

a much bigger field than Rally’s, I hope we can achieve the 

same success we achieved at Rally and this would be a 

great, personal satisfaction. 


DP:  When we toured the field, it was just mind-blowing the 

potential size of it.  There are thousands of wells that have 

been drilled over the last 50 years by the Chinese, Rus- 

sians and Albanians and one of the big questions is – just 

how big this is and just how little of it has produced so far. 

 

AB:  The current outline by the wells that have been drilled 

to date is in excess of 40 square kilometers.  So that’s very, 

very sizeable.  However, the work that we’ve been doing in 

the last couple of years indicates that the field has an ex- 

tension to the west and to the north that can add another 

50% areal extent.   This is the area size, but it also has 

some thick oil bearing formations of some 300 meters thick 

in the heart of the field with fantastic porosities adding in 

excess of 4 billion barrels of oil in place. Our challenge 

now is to convert a good portion of that oil in place into 

recoverable reserves by deploying various Canadian-style 

recovery methods. 

 

DP:  The number you are mentioning is interesting because 

some people suggest that it is the resource number that 

could be as large as 6 or maybe even 8 billion barrels.  This 

is immense! 

 

AB:  As you are saying, this is a huge field.  It’s the largest 

onshore oil field in continental Europe and those numbers 

that you do mention can be there.  As you know in our 

business, you use a lot of probability to determine reserves 

and the 50% probability for the oil in place is 4.7 billion bar- 

rels.  If you go into the 10% probability, it can get into the 6 

and 7 billion barrels of oil in place. 

 

DP:  The big question of course, is how much can you re- 

cover? 

 

AB:  This is the challenge, but it’s also what we know and 

what we’ve been doing in the past.  Canadians had been 

leaders in heavy oil extraction.  A lot of the equipment and 

technology that we use in Albania are coming from Can- 

ada.  Our senior operating team is from Canada to share 

their expertise with the local Albanian staff and be able to 

prove that the technologies that we’ve practiced in western 

Canada, can be implemented successfully here.  We were 

the first to use progressive cavity pumps at Patos Marinza, 

a lifting technology that has been used for years in western 

Canada around the Lloydminster area.  I worked for Scep- 

tre Resources in the 80’s, the company that drilled the first 

horizontal/steam well in Tangleflags Saskatchewan back in 

1987 and with the success of the project, we started to ex- 

plore taking this technology internationally and hence, is 

my love story with global heavy oil. 

 

DP:  Which is what this project is about…and that’s heavy oil.  Now, your expertise is bringing in technology, forming 

a team and then at a certain point, selling out like you did with Rally Energy to an even bigger company who can ad- 

vance things even quicker. 

 

AB:  Our objective is not to sell.  When Rally was sold they came to us.  We were in the process of growing our re- 

serves.  We did not put ourselves up for sale.  People just got attracted to what we had.  I hope that this doesn’t hap- 

pen too soon here because we still want to grow our reserves and our production significantly before anyone comes 

in and tries to undercut our objectives so they can have a bigger piece of the pie as it evolves.  There is going to be a 

time when this asset might be too big for a company the size of Bankers, and someone else can do a better job with it.  

We don’t have a specific date that we are looking at achieving this, we are just going to go about doing our business 

and it will be a natural consequence of our growth that some bigger company will be interested in us. 

 

DP:  Looking ahead, there is always something that comes out of left field.  What are the things you would worry 

about? 

 

AB:  Oil price, oil price, oil price.  We’ve seen what has happened last fall and the first quarter of this year.  Heavy oil 

of course, you cannot sell it for the full quoted value, we only get about 55% of Brent price for the quality of our crude. 

Our operating costs is a bit higher than light oil.  We do pay an average 23% royalties in the country and when you 

add all of these factors together, at $40 oil, we break even.  At $60 oil, we start making $12 to $15 netbacks.  At $70, we 

make $20 netback and we can run our operations and have significant capital programs to develop this field for many 

years to come. 

 

DP:  Our favorite question as I am sure you are aware of…what are your predictions for the price of oil for Christmas 

this year and Christmas next year and of course, if you had to suggest an oil stock (other than your own) that would 

double or triple – what would it be? 

 

AB:  On the price of oil, I have always been very bullish.  It’s a global and in high demand commodity.  I don’t see any 

alternative sources of energy that can take the place of oil anytime soon.  We are growing in the area of sustainable 

energy, but oil will be around for a long time and hence why I am bullish on it.  It will have some peaks and troughs 

along the way and we’ve seen the corrections because of over-inflated prices from last summer of $140 and de- 

pressed prices of $35 in the fall, but the general trend will continue to be an upward trend and if we take a base of $60- 

$70 that we are in right now, I can see growth from that number at a good 5% to 10% per annum and you can make 

your prediction over the next several years with hiccups of ups and downs.  If you use that concept and where we are 

at right now, we should get to $80 by Christmas.  If you give it another 10% for next year – that’s $88 – $90 for Christ- 

mas 2010. 

 

The stock pick question is always a tough question.  Not too many doubles out there.  As you know, I’ve had my favor- 

ites in the past, but again, due to the cost and lack of capital at lower oil prices, that changed my outlook on some of 

those stories.  I am looking at the bigger integrated oils to do very well in the long-run and I’m going to go with the 

largest oil company Exxon-Mobil for a 20-25% gain in the next year.   

 

DP:  Thank you very much Abby! 


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