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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Chemtrade Logistics Income 6 50 Convertible Unsecured Subordinated Debentures T.CHE.DB.E

Alternate Symbol(s):  T.CHE.DB.F | T.CHE.DB.G | T.CHE.DB.H | T.CHE.UN | CGIFF

Chemtrade Logistics Income Fund is a Canada-based company that operates a diversified business providing industrial chemicals and services to customers in North America and around the world. The Company's segments include Sulphur and Water Chemicals (SWC), and Electrochemicals (EC). SWC segment markets, removes and/or produces merchant, Regen and sulphuric acid, sodium hydrosulphite, elemental... see more

TSX:CHE.DB.E - Post Discussion

Post by CanSiamCyp on Nov 12, 2020 8:00pm

BMO analyst flash update

Just Another One of Those Quarters for CHE

Bottom Line:
 
Large Q3 miss (water the only bright spot) with 2020E EBITDA seemingly ~$275M
and some 2021 guidance commentary implying to us 2021 EBITDA ~$300M, implying
a 75-80% 2021E payout ratio. There's sizable upside if CHE can recover earnings (to
the high end of "normalized" ~$300-350M earnings), and right the ship, but finding
conviction amid high payout ratios is difficult (it may have to start with sharp caustic
recovery). Our target price is ~6x 2021E EV/EBITDA

Adj. Q3 EBITDA of $65M (down ~28% y/y, ~14% q/q) missed $75M consensus
(BMO: $76M estimate). Distributable cash after maintenance capex was $12.1M ($0.13/
unit), a ~115% payout.
 
Comment by Kherson on Nov 12, 2020 10:50pm
115% payout ratio for the Quarter? Wow... Chemtrade will simply have to cut the distribution yet again! Kherson
Comment by Fantome on Nov 12, 2020 11:21pm
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Comment by Capharnaum on Nov 13, 2020 12:05am
While I think it was a bad quarter, they did more maintenance capex this quarter than in Q1 and Q2. They also had $4M in costs issuing the new debentures which are non recurring costs. Excluding the costs related to the new debentures and with an averaged maintenance capex cost (total maintenance capex for Q1+Q2+Q3 / 3), the payout would have been 71%. However, with two maintenance shutdowns ...more  
Comment by Fantome on Nov 13, 2020 7:01am
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Comment by Capharnaum on Nov 13, 2020 12:05pm
Well, I don't hold shares right now for several reasons (including their current balance sheet and that their quarterly performance has been on the decline). I just don't think that using ponctual charges combined with a quarterly view is a good way to calculate the payout. Ultimately, if the yearly payout is 70%, it's not really important that quarterly it goes 40% - 115% - 115% - 40 ...more  
Comment by Kherson on Nov 13, 2020 9:28am
I have been saying for at least a couple of years now that Chemtrade is in trouble financially. My basic argument was that Chemtrade overpaid for the Canexus acquisition! I also still believe that Mark's only reason for pulling the trigger on Canexus was so that he could justify receiving the $5 million Long Term Incentive Bonus! Kherson
Comment by Fantome on Nov 13, 2020 11:05am
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Comment by Kherson on Nov 28, 2020 12:33am
Comment by Reittrader on Nov 13, 2020 12:09am
Did you forget we are in the middle of a pandamic? The income and profitt will be back again, just wait and see.
Comment by Fantome on Nov 13, 2020 7:45am
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