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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Chemtrade Logistics Income 6 50 Convertible Unsecured Subordinated Debentures T.CHE.DB.E

Alternate Symbol(s):  T.CHE.DB.F | T.CHE.DB.G | T.CHE.DB.H | T.CHE.UN | CGIFF

Chemtrade Logistics Income Fund is a Canada-based company that operates a diversified business providing industrial chemicals and services to customers in North America and around the world. The Company's segments include Sulphur and Water Chemicals (SWC), and Electrochemicals (EC). SWC segment markets, removes and/or produces merchant, Regen and sulphuric acid, sodium hydrosulphite, elemental... see more

TSX:CHE.DB.E - Post Discussion

Post by incomedreamer11 on Aug 12, 2022 8:48am

Scotia comment on result

Poised for Relative Outperformance

OUR TAKE: Positive. We believe CHE is poised for relative outperformance N/T. First, chlor-alkali remains tighter than most other chemical chains, with caustic still up 50% y/y, despite recent moderation. This is the main reason for the 31% H2-implied guidance raise (17% for ‘22 overall). Second, refinery rates remain strong; and now that gasoline prices have eased, we no longer see incremental regen acid demand risk. Third, the water solutions business (relatively stable margins through a recession) will now get a boost from sulphur costs improving dramatically over the past 3-4 weeks, while CHE is proactively pushing for higher prices to partially compensate for the spike. Fourth, we’re bullish on CHE’s opportunity to benefit from the U.S. build-out of semi-conductor capacity, both from its legacy ultra-pure business and the new JVFifth, at 3.2x and improving, leverage is much better today than when CHE’s B/S struggles led to meaningful share price deterioration. Sixth, we believe CHE’s board could increase the distribution in time (7% yield already), given a sustainable sub-50% payout. So, we like the stock, but also understand why some past shareholders remain skeptical/cautious, and need to see further improvement.

What we learned on the call: (1) every US$50/mt change to caustic pricing, sustained for a year, results in a $10M change to EBITDA; (2) ultra-pure acid demand remains very strong, with CHE now adding capacity from two projects; (3) CHE anticipates continued success in proactively passing on higher sulphur costs to its water treatment chemical customers; (4) should be a record year for EC in ‘22; (5) CHE continues to generate robust margins in chlorine, which at times, as been a break-even business for the company; (6) the HCl outlook is improving on the back of higher fracking activity; (7) demand for sodium chlorate remains subdued; (8) CHE does not carry a lot of sulphur inventory, especially when prices were spiking recently; (9) CHE’s ultra-pure market share in NA is ~80%; (10) Q3 EC EBITDA should exceed Q1/Q2.

Comment by raybay_98 on Aug 12, 2022 3:21pm
So, we like the stock, but also understand why some past shareholders remain skeptical/cautious, and need to see further improvement And therein lays the problem. If further improvement does emerge, the stock may finally get to where it should be! JMHO
Comment by carp1104 on Aug 12, 2022 10:24pm
Hello raybay_98  ;    You write    "And therin lays the problem"  take a look at the stock market and see how many stocks are down 30,40,50,60% and think about that generic and stupid statement was from Scotia .     I can list dozens and find hundreds that woud have  fit that statment and are now far more valuable. It is ...more  
Comment by raybay_98 on Aug 13, 2022 4:03pm
All I am saying is be smart and then set your stop losses as there are always suprises good and bad. Agreed!
Comment by carp1104 on Aug 13, 2022 4:05am
As I have time to spare lets look at "The need to see further improvemt" A one year chart shows Chemtrade at a low of $6.01 and a six month low of $7.10 and todays high $9.18 .( A price increase of 50%) so if you were to look out to the future one or two years and see the same chart what would you find? The price increase of 50% would give you a share price of $ 9.18 plus $4.59 gives you ...more  
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