Post by
simpliciti on Oct 18, 2020 9:51am
TTC Link Content
Hydrogen Fuel Injection System for Diesel Engines:
Responding to an unsolicited proposal from dynaCERT Inc., the New Technology and Innovation team is evaluating a system that generates hydrogen from water through a small electrolyzer and subsequently injects the hydrogen into the engine’s air intake. The premise is that the addition of hydrogen to the engine results in a more complete combustion process, leading to reduced fuel consumption and greenhouse gases emissions.
The vendor is undertaking a dynamometer test at its expense and has provided test units for evaluation on buses scheduled for decommissioning.
Should this technology prove effective and practical to implement, the potential fuel savings will likely offset the cost of the investment and the reduction in emissions would advance progress toward the City’s goals under the TransformTO Climate Action Plan.
With successful demonstration of the technology, the TTC would undertake a public procurement to broaden the pilot and adoption of this system on all clean diesel and hybrid-electric buses with sufficient life remaining to warrant the investment.
Time Horizon:
Prototype evaluation targeted for completion by Q4 2020
Full fleet implementation by Q4 2021, pending approval of prototype by Q1 2021
Implementation Costs:
$7,500 per bus; or $11.3 million for 1,500 diesel and hybrid-electric buses Ongoing Operational Cost: $2,000 net savings per bus per year, assuming 5% fuel savings; or $3 million per year for 1,500 buses
Payback Period: ~ 4 years Progress will be reported back to the TTC Board through a future Green Bus Program update
Interesting to me is the fact that the document is dated October 22, next Thursday but it is generally accessible as of Steel Panther' post.
We are now 18 days into Q4 and according to the document, prototype evaluation was to be complete by now.
So, this test program has been underway for a while. Wonder why and how a poster had to find this out......Or did I miss a press release?
Comment by
BlueArrow on Oct 18, 2020 11:39am
I hope all of you realize the implications of a TTC approval. The City of Toronto has many other departments with many vechicles using diesel that will need to follow the Transform TO Action Climate Plan. The City of Toronto being the largest city and major hub in Canada could have a snowball effect that would be enormous and this is just for Canada. Think World Wide !
Comment by
iceman on Oct 18, 2020 1:30pm
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Comment by
Tiberian1234 on Oct 18, 2020 5:19pm
That's not how share value works lol!!
Comment by
BlueArrow on Oct 18, 2020 7:43pm
It just came to me that the City of Toronto "Transform TO Action Climate Plan" would probably include Contractors to be in Compliance and that would be large. This would no doubt set a guideline for other Canadian Municipalities to follow as they all work at cost savings especially now.
Comment by
cnsmith on Oct 18, 2020 1:37pm
Here We Go ! Lets hope they can execute and get the needed positive results, then game on! GLTA especially Ye Olde Longs
Comment by
senator161 on Oct 18, 2020 2:04pm
Sorry CN they have not executed anything in 15 years
Comment by
cnsmith on Oct 18, 2020 2:13pm
As long as there is life there is hope! Then there is time for it to be the first time! GLTA !
Comment by
senator161 on Oct 18, 2020 2:18pm
I hope your right there are a lot of good people betting on it. The problem is all the promises fall throught
Comment by
cnsmith on Oct 18, 2020 6:51pm
I hear you ! Lets hope they get this right and the unit is working as purported ! We have all been waiting and hoping since Tom Fairfull days ! GLTA
Comment by
simpliciti on Oct 19, 2020 9:11am
Let's ask ourselves why this "information" was not disseminated by the company when they were given the project go ahead? Let's also not forget that the results were just a tad overdue. How many times have we been down this road before? Can you say Austria?
Comment by
simpliciti on Oct 19, 2020 10:02am
I believe the TTC report indicated they received an unsolicited proposal from DynaCERT.....it did not mention any reseller.
Comment by
francoisl13 on Oct 19, 2020 10:27am
I agree with most comments about the inability for DYA to provide timely updates on most , if not all, of their trials/projects.In regards to TTC, they made it clear during their last discussion with Wll Street Reporter that they have a non-disclosure agreement in aplce with Toronto so, this is the reason why they did not spread the news. GLTA