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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum North American Financial 15 Split Corp T.FFN

Alternate Symbol(s):  FNCSF

North American Financial 15 Split Corp. is a Canada-based mutual fund corporation, which invests in a portfolio of over 15 financial services companies. It offers two types of shares, such as Preferred Shares and Class A Shares. Its investment objectives with respect to preferred shares are to provide holders of preferred shares with cumulative preferential monthly cash dividends in the amount... see more

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North American Financial 15 Split Corp > Looking at investing in this Holding
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Post by ReitsRus on Apr 23, 2022 8:58am

Looking at investing in this Holding

Can someone explain to me how a high dividend like this can be paid out, seems very high and is it safe. Looking for more Monthly income as I get closer to retirement., Thx.
Comment by EdPaquette on Apr 23, 2022 11:14am
This horse has been winning, but it's owner has whipped it within an inch of death.Your capital could go down 40% if you buy today and the nav falls even one penny. 
Comment by mdoldon on Apr 25, 2022 12:09pm
VERY risky if you are getting close to retirement.  These types of split funds pay out that high yield by relying on capital increase in the underlying fund in order to earn the income needed.  They also buy and sell covered options on those underlying stocks. There is, however, a hard limit.  If the NAV per unit falls below $10 in any month, no Dividend will be paid for that ...more  
Comment by mdoldon on Apr 25, 2022 12:16pm
Sorry, had to post an edit.  The payout limit is $15 per full unit (common and preferred), with $5 typically allocated to the Commons. Sorry about that
Comment by flamingogold on Apr 25, 2022 12:29pm
Everyone's risk tolerance is difference. Unless you expect an economic collapse worse than covid, which was the worst since WWII, the preferreds will continue to kick out monthly distributions.
Comment by navgod on Apr 25, 2022 12:30pm
Comment by navgod on Apr 25, 2022 12:49pm
The bottom line on FFN is that the risk/reward is ridiculously negative -- almost any other splitshare would be a better trade/investment. The "dividend" is not income but a return of capital. I am comfortable short adding to it today. Would also point out I am a comfortable long in FFN.pr.a and adding to my position. GLTA
Comment by JohnWalker on Apr 25, 2022 4:46pm
I don't know how much will be Return of Capital this year, we can't know until the end of the year. But I filed taxes for 2021 and my T5 for FFN showed that dividends last year were 100% Eligible Dividends. There was NO Return of Capital. For the record, I do not hold any FFN now (short or long) and if asked I would not advise holding FFN the current premium of price vs NAV.
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